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07-30-2016 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
That's a helluva pivot from "If you want to pay them with your money, feel free" to "The world is not black and white".
You pivoted the example scenario. As i said, different scenarios must be taken at their individual merits.

Do you support the reparations of Germany after WW1?
07-30-2016 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
... It is about the action being proposed when leftists start talking about reparations. The go-to option for leftists seems to always be "spend other people's money to fix the problem" without any concern for the people they are stealing from...
What about when the leftists start talking about squatting. The go-to option for leftists seems to always be "spend other people's money to fix the problem" without any concern for the people they're stealing from. Squatting is no exception, as the leftists steal money from renters, freeholders, homeless folk, and those just passing through, indeed anyone who buys anything at all (evictions are usually funded by sales tax).

Why do the leftists steal other people's money from everyone to fix what is only a problem for landlords ??
07-30-2016 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
different scenarios must be taken at their individual merits.
So I guess your objections really have nothing at all to do with "leftists" "stealing" "other people's money" and "cash handouts".
07-30-2016 , 11:53 AM
You know who doesn't object to "stealing", "other people's money" and "cash handouts"?

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The self-hating leftists like Black Peter !!!1!
07-30-2016 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
So I guess your objections really have nothing at all to do with "leftists" "stealing" "other people's money" and "cash handouts".
In the context of the original scenario about slavery reparations, those are my objections. It is immoral to steal from people who did nothing wrong to pay for the sins of the ones who did the wrongdoing. Would you like to pay for Japan's role in the Nanjing massacre?

You seem to want to generalize my statements to all reparation scenarios. It doesn't work like that, because the world is not black and white. Each scenario must be analyzed based on its own merits. I am not opposed to reparations that involve penalizing the actual people who perpetrated the wrongs.

Speaking of another scenario, when will you answer my question about WW1 reparations?
07-30-2016 , 12:04 PM
I guess I missed the post where you analyzed the case for black reparations on its own merits.
07-30-2016 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
What about when the leftists start talking about squatting. The go-to option for leftists seems to always be "spend other people's money to fix the problem" without any concern for the people they're stealing from. Squatting is no exception, as the leftists steal money from renters, freeholders, homeless folk, and those just passing through, indeed anyone who buys anything at all (evictions are usually funded by sales tax).

Why do the leftists steal other people's money from everyone to fix what is only a problem for landlords ??
That is an interesting argument and one worth thinking about. I have rented out, but don't have much information about eviction or who pays. Can you provide more details?
07-30-2016 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Nice try at a strawman. If you want to actually engage what I said, then I'm happy to continue.
Strawman? It's literally what you said.

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It punishes all taxpayers.
Nobody's getting punished by paying their taxes.

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Again, it is immoral to charge children for their parents' and ancestors' wrongdoings. Would you be ok if your children were sent to jail for a crime your father committed?
And this is comparing reparations through taxes to jailing a kid for their father's crime.

How the **** was I supposed to read that?
07-30-2016 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
... It is immoral to steal from people who did nothing wrong to pay for the sins of the ones who did the wrongdoing...
Amen brother, only the squatters themselves should pay for evictions. The leftists should stop stealing money from renters, freeholders, homeless, or innocent victims just buying a candy bar on the 'free' market.

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... Each scenario must be analyzed based on its own merits...
And then you straight back to your bleeding heart leftist pablum. Man, being a self-hating leftist like Black Peter must be like having the schizophrenia.

07-30-2016 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
That is an interesting argument and one worth thinking about. I have rented out, but don't have much information about eviction or who pays. Can you provide more details?
Well, an eviction is a tort. So you know how big-government is, there's always taxes and shiz to pay. So you gotta kick down the filing fee. Last time for me that was $87. YMMV depending where you live, of course, because big-government can't make anything simple. Of course they can't... how would they justify that army of clerks. BTW, it's those greedy public sector unionized lazy clerks who get that $87... and much-much more out of the general fund. None of that mandatory governmental fee goes to pay for the actual eviction itself.

But after that it's a free-roll. The eviction itself is typically funded by the sales tax.
08-01-2016 , 03:24 PM
If I have black cousins can I get in on the action too? My family's equity was damaged.
08-01-2016 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
If I have black cousins can I get in on the action too? My family's equity was damaged.
Who exactly damaged your equity? Was it those cousins... I bet it was. Well, unless you're a Leftist, this is what you believe...

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Originally Posted by Black Peter
... It is immoral to steal from people who did nothing wrong to pay for the sins of the ones who did the wrongdoing...
So your beef is with your cousins. Now that's a family matter, and it's not my place to meddle where I don't belong. But it's not my problem. So there's no reason for BIG GOVERNMENT, with it's stinkin' army of public-sector unionized lazy clerks, to be going around stealing from people who did nothing wrong to pay for the sins of the black sheep in your own damn family. Talk about a #NannyStater!!!1! Would you like BIG GOVERNMENT to come over and tuck you into beddy-bye too ??
08-01-2016 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Sure, but actual cash would be helpful too. Didn't someone calculate it one time, actually breaking down the amount of labor wages stolen, adding interest? I wanna say it was upwards of a trillion. We could probably handle that spread out over a couple decades, considering the amount we already spend on other things like the military.
http://www.newsweek.com/slavery-repa...ulation-364141

Sheesh, $14 trillion? I might be down for purely utilitarian reasons, but that's almost as much as our national debt! I guess it is a national debt in a sense, so we could just tack in on
08-02-2016 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
In the context of the original scenario about slavery reparations, those are my objections. It is immoral to steal from people who did nothing wrong to pay for the sins of the ones who did the wrongdoing. Would you like to pay for Japan's role in the Nanjing massacre?
Are you saying that government should never pay out any compensation claims?

The money is always coming from taxpayers most who will not have been personally involved in whatever is being compensated for.
08-02-2016 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Are you saying that government should never pay out any compensation claims?
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It's pretty clear that I'm not making a general statement like that.
08-02-2016 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
It's pretty clear that I'm not making a general statement like that.
Then what's the argument against us paying for the 'sins' of others?

Either compensation is due from the government or it isn't. If it is due then 'innocent' taxpayers always have to have to be the ones to pay don't they?
08-02-2016 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Then what's the argument against us paying for the 'sins' of others?

Either compensation is due from the government or it isn't. If it is due then 'innocent' taxpayers always have to have to be the ones to pay don't they?
Did you read the thread? I was speaking to one issue, not compensation in general. I don't support charging people for wrongdoings done by people we never met or are long dead. The vast majority of people agree with me that this is an immoral proposition, and that's why this specific proposal is always dead in the water when put to the public or Congress.
08-02-2016 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
... Each scenario of stealing must be analyzed based on its own merits...
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
...I was speaking to one issue, not stealing in general...
See... this is why you're a Leftist. Steeling money is always wrong. A case of stealing needn't be a "analyzed based on its own merits". There aren't some issues where stealing is OK, so there's no reason to isolate any one issue. Stealing is wrong in every single case, and in regard to all possible issues... period! Only a Leftist would think otherwise. A tax-n-spend Leftist like you. This is why you Leftists have no moral compass at all.


Last edited by Shame Trolly !!!1!; 08-02-2016 at 12:06 PM.
08-03-2016 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Who exactly damaged your equity? Was it those cousins... I bet it was. Well, unless you're a Leftist, this is what you believe...
Nobody said anything about my equity.
08-03-2016 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
If I have black cousins can I get in on the action too? My family's equity was damaged.
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Nobody said anything about my equity.
Well, at first I was going to say: WTFBBQ, you aren't part of your own damn family? Then I realized that obviously you must be the blacksheep dragging the rest of your family down, including your black cousins.

So again, this is a family matter. If your black cousins, or anyone else in your family, wanna press you for reparations, that's their prerogative. Since you admit to damaging their equity, morally you might wanna go ahead and kick down.

But, none of this is any of my problem. And as you admit, you're the guilty party here. You might arguably owe reparations, but you most certainly aren't due any. So again, there's no reason for BIG GOVERNMENT, with it's putrid army of public-sector unionized lazy clerks, to be going around stealing from people who did nothing wrong to pay the flippin' sinner, you in this case, who did the wrongdoing. Would you like to pay for the Japs for their role in the Nanjing massacre? ZOMG... Leftists they even want to tax-n-spend to pay the criminals... ZOMG.
08-04-2016 , 04:33 AM
make all 1%'ers pay the taxes OR subsidized living for bottom 1%'ers that are black.
08-04-2016 , 05:41 AM
such a silly concept
08-04-2016 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Did you read the thread? I was speaking to one issue, not compensation in general. I don't support charging people for wrongdoings done by people we never met or are long dead. The vast majority of people agree with me that this is an immoral proposition, and that's why this specific proposal is always dead in the water when put to the public or Congress.
I was grunching a bit, sorry but I am trying to understand your objection to reparations:

You don't seem to object to:
a) Government paying compensation to people we never met out of our taxes, and
b) Government paying compensation to the estates of dead people out of our taxes.

If you're arguing that compensation isn't due to slaves for some reason then can you explain why? If it is due then why do 1) and 2) not apply.
08-04-2016 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I was grunching a bit, sorry but I am trying to understand your objection to reparations:

You don't seem to object to:
a) Government paying compensation to people we never met out of our taxes, and
b) Government paying compensation to the estates of dead people out of our taxes.

If you're arguing that compensation isn't due to slaves for some reason then can you explain why? If it is due then why do 1) and 2) not apply.
Given that i have made no comments about a or b, you can imagine my surprise that you have come to the conclusion that i have done so.

I wrote a long post and then realized that i'm just repeating myself. Go back and read the thread.

Last edited by Black Peter; 08-04-2016 at 11:47 PM.

      
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