Trying to cover all my bases before I create an account, let me know thanks!

You don't need one, everyone has the option of 27% just send support an email.

thanks alot, just to clarify

1. I don't need one---an account?
2. Support do you mean through here, or through a rakeback site? I looked at raketherake and they seem to be offering next to nothing other than VIP deals on like 6 sites...

thanks again

Once you establish an account through the poker site, just email site support and request that you be changed from Elite Benefits member over to 27% rakeback. Elite Benefits is a better option if you plan on putting in enough volume to pay over $750 a year in rake... Otherwise rakeback is the way you want to go.

^ Probably more like at least $15-20k rake per year (2nd highest VIP rank).

Right, not sure why I keep seeing this $750 number everywhere...

http://www.professionalrakeback.com/...WPNrbCHART.png

the 'colonel' level is where it really starts to pay off

yeah I was going to say, 750 seemed really, really low, could pull that off in just a month multi tabling sit and goes

i just had no idea you can still get a full blown 27% rakeback, that's awesome. does it work for tournament entries or just cash game rake?

Thanks guys!

If you look at the spreadsheet, $750 in rake paid (under the Elite benefits) is effectively where you start to earn the equivalent of 27% rake back. If you're a low volume player, and will pay LESS than $750 p/year in rake, rakeback is more profitable. If you're a high volume player and will pay over $750 in rake p/year the Elite benefits program is the better option... I'm pretty sure I didn't forget how to add....

I'm sure nobody with any common sense would believe you're going to reach General paying $750 in rake per year...

I think you need to add a zero, 7,500 on rank points is where the elite are worth it. That is just over 1,363 in actual fees paid. One of the biggest differences is in the calculation of combat points. At major you get double, 2.5 at colonel, etc....

Every game fee you pay is included in the calculations.

MTT fees count unless you satellite in.

SNGs count at 75% because 25% goes to Sit&Crush, so effectively 20.25% rakeback instead of 27%.

Cash counts at something less than 100% because a portion goes to The Beast. Not sure exactly how much, but I would guess it's similar to Sit&Crush.)

You might be looking at the wrong columns in the chart.

Yeah... that's not correct at all. I started for Elite on a new name this year and it's going to take me until like June to get back to my 35% level, and I rake thousands of dollars a month.

You're looking at the sheet wrong.

Fwiw, I'm at 35% because I had an old Merge BCP account, you can't get that anymore.

awesome so I just need to:

1. Sign up for an account with ACR
2. Email support and tell them to switch me to 27% rakeback?

Seems too easy...

Why would it be hard? lol... that's all you need to do. GL to you

Yeah, I really need to stop looking at spreadsheets, on a mobile device, after a half bottle of Crown Reserve. I see the glaring error after Google (my wife) pointed out the correct columns. I've got my head wrapped around it now. Thanks for pointing that out to me...

yeah I just remember you used to have to email raketherake before ever set up an account or you were screwed

straight up 27% rakeback is amazing though if this is true. it can turn a breakeven week into a +$200 week at the low stakes even

so they just drop it straight into your account on what, a weekly basis?

I mean RvrRatKilla wasn't far off. If you use your points to buy into mtts/satellites you get to 28.12% rakeback at just $1818 raked. But that's with a couple caveats. You basically have to go ham using your points during OSS series or you often won't have enough to pay back with. It also doesn't tell us how the people are spreading their $1818 in rake in terms of monthly statuses.

All that being said I recommend people I signup to go with their VIP combat system if they play mtts at all due to the boost you get for buying into mtts/satellites with the points. If you don't want to go through that hassle and are low volume then yes 27% flat is probably for you.

On the referenced chart, is that what is meant by TB? I see no where else to get TB's, but have been using my points for satty's when allowed which is a strong %.

My understanding is you used to be able to buy TB in the store and they changed it instead to allow you to buy directly into selected events with combat points. As you stated it's a strong % so I was under the assumption the numbers still lined up as stated. But you know what they say about assuming.

i am super confused by your post, just due to my lack of knowledge

"using your points during OSS series or you wont have enough to pay back with"....

what are you paying back for xD

He means there isn't enough opportunities to get the extra % by using points except for during the series if you grind a ton. You can't buy in with points for many things normally.

An example I can come up with to help explain is this.

In their normal MTT schedule the biggest buyin you can enter with your points is $1. In their normal satellite schedule the biggest i've seen is $55.

While this past OSS (online super series their once every ~2 month series) you could buy directly into the $540 main event with points.



So basically if you're a high volume player looking to optimize your rakeback you'd have to save a lot of your points and spend most of them at once during a tournament series. On the other hand 27% rakeback i believe is paid about daily?

why wouldn't you just buy cash from the acr store?

Because it's not worth as much when you do that.

oh really? good to know...
big diff from buying cash to using them to reg. oss or just slight?