Funny how the "300k gtd warm-up 8max" was played in 9max WPN just not giving a f.

anybody else think its a bit silly that a 1k cage will be running at the same time as the 5k BOSS one?

Progressive knockout tourneys would be cool, but i guess that would require a software upgrade

I think it's time to make the million guarantee a monthly fixture. Maybe a monthly $109 300k as well. People love those prizes up top. As long as there are satties, they'll never overlay.

Could you please consider either moving the 44-6max to start a little bit earlier or reduce the minimum amount of players? As it is now it cancels the majority of the time which is a shame as the field gets to a decent size when it does run.

I personally would but I also really enjoy R/A tournaments, don't know how others feel about them. Would really be nice if there was a nightly rebuy with the old structure.

I like SnG 2.0 but I wish there was a little better options for multi-table sng's. The on-demands are okay, but don't really fill that much and usually (outside of the $0.55 OD) don't get beyond 27 players. Having a possibility of 90/180 mans would be glorious, could even have something similar to what you do now with $0.55, $1, $5, etc variants. 180 may take too long to fill, but 90 mans would be great and a nice in between for those who love MTT style tournaments but don't enjoy the 3 hr/ 5 hr long reg that happens in most tournaments.

Actually the more I thought about it, 90/180 man MTT SNGs sound pretty great for ACR and I'm pretty certain you guys definitely have the traffic for it. I know there have been a lot of people who aren't happy with the 3hr/5hr late reg on MTTs and I feel like this would be a nice middle ground solution to that problem.

Also I'm pretty sure (unless I'm mistaken) that no other U.S. allowing site runs anything similar to the 90/180 man MTT SNGs so you could draw and attract a lot of new players while enticing the regulars as well. Having a $1/$5/$8/$15 option would be great and I imagine they would fill around the clock.

Feel free to correct me, anyone, if I was mistaken in anything I said above.

I would love bigger SNG fields. They used to be very popular on PokerStars, so much so that some of the online pros (Sean Deeb for one) specialized in the 180s. I currently play MTTs of between 25 to 125 players on one of the low traffic sites.

That said, I will throw out something that I've said before. You can only chop up the SNG player pool so many ways. Even when PokerStars had huge player pools just before Black Friday, players were starting to complain that there were too many levels, types, variants and sizes of SNGs. STT specialists were starting to have trouble getting games going at the higher levels. If I had to choose, I would much rather have more SNG sizes then jackpots, gold, and green and whatever other colored cards and gimmicks there are.

Variants are fine, but make sure that you don't neglect the base of NLHE SNGs and freezeouts that beginners will expect to see on a poker site. Some of us just want to play poker, without the bells and whistles.

saying they would fill around the clock is very very optimistic

A $20 OD game takes hours to run during the day. During peak hours, it isn't like they have a dozen of them running at once, either. Those little 50 cent games don't get 90 players half the time. Right now, there are a total of 93 seats taken across 9 SNGs, HUSNGs, or OD games and it goes back an hour and forty minutes, 93 players and that does not account for those sitting at more than one table.

Virtually no chance a 90 seater runs around the clock.

I'm in the same boat. Work at 6am 5 days a week, would love something like a 3 table 27 man or 5 table 45 man sit n go. Maybe even 6 table 6 max 36 ppl (could do shootouts with those too then) Used to play those on stars all the time. Just don't have time to play 12 hour MTT's.

Okay filling around the clock was probably not the best choice of words but I do think that certain ones would do so.

I've given it a lot of thought and I think 45/90 mans would be the way to go, as 180 mans (for now at least) would take too long to fill. Offer up $1/$5/$10/etc variants and they would do well throughout the whole day I would imagine. There really needs to be some middle ground between 9 man SnGs and 3 hr/5 hr late reg MTTs. The ODs just dont really hit that sweet spot unless its the $0.55. The $1 and $5 rarely break 21 plays at best. Having it set to 45 and 90 and then launching it up would be great imo.

2 hours with no antes in boss events is too much, should be like 2 levels without antes to start a mtt in my opinion, what do other players think?

Because who wants to play 3 hours for a $20 first place payout?

Beginners who start with a small deposit.

Look at how long it takes to get the 10 man $10 game going and see how many times it has 30 players in it. I don't see how it would attract more people suddenly if you had to wait for 45 players vs 10 to get running. Not poo-pooing the idea, just saying that there are not that many players doing these games. Look at the SNGs and OD games, probably 3/4 of the fields are regs. I like larger SNGs, too. There just isn't that many players running in them.

I'd love to see stud and FL sngs or OD games, but it doesn't seem that they will happen, either.




Plenty of people evidently, they run all day long and I've seen them get more than 100 players in some. Little interest to me, but so are the penny cash games, but plenty of seats filled in those. If people will wade through a 600 player field for a shot at $1.50 to take it down, then they will delight in the $25 OD games after winning one or two of the freerolls.

I strongly support a variation of turbo 18/45/90 mans. I'm one of the few that don't play MTTs anymore due to the late reg times.

I would replace OD games with these and leave them in the MTT lobby.

Who else remembers the good old days of there being 5,000 entries and we were ITM in 3-4 hours with the event lasting 8 hours?

I would love to see real 45/90/180 mans, but unless WPN drastically overhauls their SNG offerings and all things related they are drawing dead to ever gain traction.

The site is far too small (in regards to consistent everyday traffic) and they have so many different SNG variants that it spreads the pool too thin for those type of games. That's the reason they made the on demands, and even those take awhile to get going.

I personally would like to see more freeze outs or limited reentry MTTs . Something needs to give in regards to entries or late reg length, the player base is there. I know, prize pools, but if it was done intelligently and gradual, you could find a sweet spot where you aren't losing prize pool $/ entries as a result.

I think there's plenty of people such as myself that don't play ODs due to their structure. I would remove them completely and just add 18/45 mans. Anything more is too much wait. Give the MTSNGs the same as much love ODs got toward sit and crush. Then it will be fine.

I support that now would be the time for more true freezeouts before the summertime is fully here.

I think the actual concept behind ODs that run for 4-5 levels after hitting 9 players is why they never fill. Do 18/45/90 (18/45 to start probably) MTT SnG's and they would have a better structure and fill quicker I believe. I tend to stay away from the ODs because it ends up as 9-11 people after 3 levels and by then the blinds are higher and usually not worth it.

I agree that rolling what you do for the ODs into the 18/45 man for SNC would be best as well.

I dunno about you, but I get lots of them to fill lol.

What exactly do you play anymore? ODs and MTTs are a big part of what makes up the tournament side of WPN traffic lately.

ODs combined with the snc promo is far better than any 18/45/90 mans could ever hope to be these days. There simply isn't enough traffic to make them run often enough(they would most likely be a waste of lobby space after a few weeks), people are wishfully thinking back to the good old days...but the player pool was massive then and things were simply different. Even getting something like SNG 2.0 off the ground has been difficult so far, and it needs much less people to start too.

Also did the $1 holdem on-demands get removed recently? I didn't see them in my lobby. Adding $2 plo8 on-demands in their place would surely bring in more rake than the $1 holdem ones did. I know of quite a few players who would get these to fire regularly. Another positive is these $2 on-demands would make a much better replacement for the current $2 plo8 r/a and re-entry mtts(and would clear up some lobby space). Besides, there's nothing smaller to try and grind up to the 7's and 15's from and these would be perfect for those on a smaller BR. They're definitely at least worth a try for a few weeks/months to see how they do.

I do agree with trying more 2-hour late-reg mtts scattered throughout the schedule, especially when nothing else is going on anyway. It's worth a try and they end much faster so they won't overlap with much either, especially the higher buy-in ones. 3-5k starting stacks are plenty for these, but 10k would probably be overdoing it. You don't even have to risk much for a GTD, anything is welcome at first and you can easily adjust from there.

If you do it right, you could probably generate quite a bit of traffic/rake in these since you can use a shallow starting stack size like 3k and fit more of these overall into whatever time-frames you have. I'd expect these would work very well in the $5-50 buy-in range. An alternate one to try would be 1500 chips and 1-hour late-reg to fit even more mtts into the schedule.

You could even add them before and after your most successful daily/weekly mtts and call them warm-up and second-chance events(name depends if before or after). You'll probably get some extra traffic from those who already like whichever mtt you add them to.

A nice European daily would be cool to support the early special. I know a lot of European based players would like to play more on WPN but the games end too late.

$50 5k or something at 3pm GMT

Another vote for 90/180 SnG!!!

If buy-in was $10 180 SnG, it is like a $10 MTT Freezeout GTD $1800! Sweet deal!

I understand the traffic might be too low for 180 players...but I would at least try setup one game and see how it turns out.