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09-08-2016 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tisso
you should think about running the 109 Warmup on a weekly basis after the success this week, 40-50k gtd i think would be substainable!
also put a daily 109 somewhere before the $66 4k, think more and more europlayers joining your site and there is nothing to play before 21:00 cet. what about earlier antes in your structures? this will bring more action early, maybe more reentries and you can cut maybe latereg a bit, so play after registration period doesnt become that messed up with many people having around startstack. Overall great work and effort you putting in lately
I'm all about big prize pools--especially when there is a lot of dead money in the pool. I might not be a big fan of very late registration except that so many people like to enter very late with an almost zero chance of cashing.

If an MTT has been running for several hours and players want to jump in with a starting M of <10 (not an uncommon occurrence) I say the more dead money, the merrier.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 09-08-2016 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Sentence clarity. No significant content change.
09-08-2016 , 09:05 PM
Was there some updates today that cancelled a bunch of stuff?
09-08-2016 , 10:13 PM
Anyone here play alot of the On Demand tournaments care to let me pick their brain about a few things
09-09-2016 , 11:31 AM
No more On Demands in my lobby currently
09-09-2016 , 03:54 PM
I'm playing On Demands right not like normal.
They were taken down last night along with all tournaments for a while.
09-09-2016 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aFritzPoker
I'm playing On Demands right not like normal.
They were taken down last night along with all tournaments for a while.
I just looked at the tournament page. There were three On Demand tournaments shown as registering. Two minutes later, two of those tournaments lost players. That usually means that players got tired of waiting for enough players to start the tournament.

After three minutes the tournaments have 4 of the 8 players to start, 3 of 8 and 10 of 18.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 09-09-2016 at 10:01 PM. Reason: spelling
09-09-2016 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I just looked at the tournament page. There were three On Demand tournaments shown as registering. Two minutes later, two of those tournaments lost players. That usually means that players got tired of waiting for enough players to start the tournament.

After three minutes the tournaments have 4 of the 8 players to start, 3 of 8 and 10 of 18.
You looked 6 hours later on a Friday night.
09-09-2016 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ_Vikings
Anyone here play alot of the On Demand tournaments care to let me pick their brain about a few things
You will get more responses when you ask specific questions, but I will tell you what I noticed about On Demand tournaments.

I almost never play them because for me, and anyone else trying to make money playing poker, the structure is quite fast, which increases variance. I like tournaments that are much deeper, giving me room to make moves and play a lot of speculative hands like suited connectors, small pairs and suited Ax.

On Demand tournaments start out with the same structure as most SNGs, with 1,500 starting chips and 10 minute blind levels. The difference is that the antes kick in much sooner.

In SNGs antes usually start after about an hour (level seven.) In On Demand tournaments the antes start after 30 minutes (level four.) I've only played a few and it's been a while, but if I remember correctly those tournaments took about two hours to end.

If you play turbos or otherwise like a fast structure and tournaments that end quickly, you're playing the right tournament. Another advantage would be that as a tournament player, you'll make a lot more rake than you would playing tournaments that go four, five or even more hours.
09-09-2016 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ_Vikings
Anyone here play alot of the On Demand tournaments care to let me pick their brain about a few things
You will get more responses when you ask specific questions, but I will tell you what I noticed about On Demand tournaments.

I almost never play them because for me, and anyone else trying to make money playing poker, the structure is quite fast, which increases variance. I like tournaments that are much deeper, giving me room to make moves and play a lot of speculative hands like suited connectors, small pairs and suited Ax.

On Demand tournaments start out with the same structure as most SNGs, with 1,500 starting chips and 10 minute blind levels. The difference is that the antes kick in much sooner.

In SNGs antes usually start after about an hour (level seven.) In On Demand tournaments the antes start after 30 minutes (level four.) I've only played a few and it's been a while, but if I remember correctly those tournaments took about two hours to end.

If you play turbos or otherwise like a fast structure and tournaments that end quickly, you're playing the right tournament. Another advantage would be that as a tournament player, you'll make a lot more rakeback than you would playing tournaments that go four, five or even more hours.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 09-09-2016 at 10:31 PM. Reason: I changed "rake" to "rakeback" in the last sentence of the post.
09-10-2016 , 01:39 PM
Seem strange that there doesn't seem to be a single satellite for any of Saturdays boss events?
09-10-2016 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by epokerounder
Seem strange that there doesn't seem to be a single satellite for any of Saturdays boss events?
+1 they messed up by not having sattys will have massive overlay and will get cancelled during tournament cause theyll realize they forgot sattys just a theory.
09-10-2016 , 02:32 PM
some sattys r up now
09-10-2016 , 02:55 PM
yeah, there they are, such chaos on this site
09-10-2016 , 02:56 PM
I'm not sure where to post this, but my account was debited 976$ twice last night after the 109 50k was cancelled. I contacted support and they put 976$ back into my account. check your financial history in the cashier to make sure this didn't happen to you.
09-10-2016 , 06:22 PM
The sats to this week's Sunday Special are misnamed. They say the usual $115k gtd but this week it's $200k and a BOSS event. Will get more runners if you note that.
09-11-2016 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
The sats to this week's Sunday Special are misnamed. They say the usual $115k gtd but this week it's $200k and a BOSS event. Will get more runners if you note that.
Naming and differentiating tournaments has always been a problem.

I remember one promotion where the new tournaments were exactly the same structure as Big Ten tournaments. But then again, Big Ten tournaments aren't all the same either. In general they are quite deep, but most days there is at least one running where the starting stack, minutes per blind level or some other detail is different in one Big Ten than with the others.

It's the same with the GTD tournaments, which aren't all the same, even though they have the same title.

If you care about tournament structures you better analyze every tournament. It doesn't matter what they call it, or whether it's a new promotion. The promotion might not be any better than something they already have.

We should be able to look at designations like On Demand or Big Ten or GTD and all of the tournaments in that group should have the same structure. If one of the Super Deepstack Tournaments in a new promotion starts with 15,000 chips and has 20 minutes blinds, ALL of the Super Deepstacks should have that structure, with no exceptions. If that is not the case, the designations are pointless.

Of course, none of that matters if a tournament freezes and gets canceled. WPN needs to work harder on that and spend less time on promotions.
09-11-2016 , 05:59 AM
The thing is, WPN has had server issues for three years now and I am not sure how much was done behind the scenes to improve the situation.
09-17-2016 , 01:10 PM
I'm watching Jason Somerville play the ante up WCOOP event currently on his stream, makes me wish I could play such a format at a reasonable stake. Please run a daily ante up at the $22 buyin level with a $55 at least once per week if not daily as well. People love this format, it's very skillful and a fun change of pace.
09-17-2016 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
I'm watching Jason Somerville play the ante up WCOOP event currently on his stream, makes me wish I could play such a format at a reasonable stake. Please run a daily ante up at the $22 buyin level with a $55 at least once per week if not daily as well. People love this format, it's very skillful and a fun change of pace.
They do run some like 5 dollar ones, but nothing worth playing really. There is overlay, if you want it, though.
09-17-2016 , 04:15 PM
I cannot believe that some of the tournaments on this site have 5 HOUR LATE REGISTRATION. Are you kidding me? That is absurd and beyond excessive
09-17-2016 , 05:55 PM
Virtually every decently sized poker site has or semi regularly does run MTTs with around 5 hours of late registration, WPN just does so more often.
09-17-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by imabigdeal
I cannot believe that some of the tournaments on this site have 5 HOUR LATE REGISTRATION. Are you kidding me? That is absurd and beyond excessive
Then don't play em.
09-18-2016 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Boney526
Virtually every decently sized poker site has or semi regularly does run MTTs with around 5 hours of late registration, WPN just does so more often.
Ya well it's ridiculous. Idc how many sites do it. I haven't played a tourney in ages, so not up to date I guess. 3 hours I can see, but 5 is just obnoxious
09-18-2016 , 11:01 AM
the ones with 5 hrs are generally flagship trnys with big guarantees compared to the bi, running earlier in the day alongside many events with 3 hrs. albeit 5hr l8 reg is pretty insane they are very easy to avoid and those guarantees tho
09-28-2016 , 09:39 PM
Anyone know when the timebanks reset in MTTs? Once you've used it all up are you just done for the duration of the tournament?

      
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