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WPN finds sng cheaters, keeps funds for themselves WPN finds sng cheaters, keeps funds for themselves

03-04-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CastleFrank13
Read it how you will. And dont worry just because I refuse to play on WPN until things are fixed doesnt mean I will be leaving the forum.

The DoN collusion thread is not a joke. It is players who are concerned about cheating in the games they are playing in absolutely nothing wrong with that. You know what the alternatives are? Either cleaning up the games so players feel safe or having them play on sites where they do feel safe, which would you prefer?
I'm sure that you'll continue to play on WPN while pretending not to.

I made my position clear in the DON thread. You and other posters have continuously misrepresented my position and that of others to the point that only like minded posters continue to post there.

I've never said that players shouldn't be wary of cheaters in 6max sitngos. As a matter of fact I've warned players about those types of games long before that thread was ever created. I've clearly stated that my problem with that thread is that they have absolutely no idea about how to go about proving collusion yet they name player after player without producing any real evidence whatsoever. I think that they've pretty much reached the conclusion by now that everyone is cheating but the handful of posters in that thread. And yet for some reason they continue to play 6max DONs.
03-05-2015 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
I made my position clear in the DON thread. You and other posters have continuously misrepresented my position and that of others to the point that only like minded posters continue to post there.
Sounds about right.


Hey, I'm all for more transparency from the site. But with how aggro this thread is, I wonder if the only thing it ends up accomplishing is to teach the site to be *less* transparent in the future. Rather than demanding refunds and trying to shame it out of them, perhaps asking for a policy statement would be more helpful. (No idea if there is already one in the TOS or elsewhere.)
03-05-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Sounds about right.


Hey, I'm all for more transparency from the site. But with how aggro this thread is, I wonder if the only thing it ends up accomplishing is to teach the site to be *less* transparent in the future. Rather than demanding refunds and trying to shame it out of them, perhaps asking for a policy statement would be more helpful. (No idea if there is already one in the TOS or elsewhere.)
I am waiting to get a response from security not in specific but in general terms on what happens to the funds from accounts found to be colluding. The TOS states funds MAY be forfitted. To me it is simple, if WPN finds an account to be colluding then funds are confiscated. Makes no sense to lock an account for colluding and then let them walk away with the funds.
03-08-2015 , 01:16 PM
Geez, stop arguing we're not getting any mopney back! I personally saw cyal8r pay 15%+ vig to get his money off WPN. I'd be willing to bet that the accounts were empty by the time they were frozen. They all knew they were under scrutiny and would be moving their money off frequently (daily?). When **** would hit the fan (i.e. when extremely damming evidence was brought to light, like beer's video) they would go on a hiatus (waiting to see what happens with their accounts IMO). They knew they were getting caught eventually and safe guarded themselves as much as possible I'm sure.
03-08-2015 , 01:43 PM
From what I know the acai and gold account were kicked off the tables and banned so there must have been something there.

But yeah, doesn't look good.
03-08-2015 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
From what I know the acai and gold account were kicked off the tables and banned so there must have been something there.

But yeah, doesn't look good.
IMO the cyal8r, golden, imahustla, acai, and wasted accts were operated by the same guy/s so they possibly had empty accounts too.

Unless "something there" is referring to evidence of collusion in which, yes, there had to be enough there for them to finally close the accounts. That could be quite a massive amount of information if they require the same amount of data to prove collusion that others in this forum have deemed necessary.
03-08-2015 , 02:29 PM
Sad when a few degens cheaters can outwit a paid security team for that long
03-08-2015 , 02:39 PM
I meant there must have been money in the accounts as they were banned while they were playing. I guess there wasn't enough in there for them to bother with refunds tho.
03-08-2015 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr0n3
IMO the cyal8r, golden, imahustla, acai, and wasted accts were operated by the same guy/s so they possibly had empty accounts too.

Unless "something there" is referring to evidence of collusion in which, yes, there had to be enough there for them to finally close the accounts. That could be quite a massive amount of information if they require the same amount of data to prove collusion that others in this forum have deemed necessary.
This definitely possible however I keep going back to the leaderboard spots that were paid out. These spots were paid out AFTER the accounts were closed. So again what happened to those funds? Sure the combined total for the prizes was only around $50 but that is not the point. There should have been no way for cyal/ima to be able to have access to those funds which means WPN had to have kept them.
03-09-2015 , 12:09 PM
Maybe they decided that giving us a ~$100 cumulative refund from 5 accounts that probably took over 10k out of the economy was a slap in the face. It's probably how I'd handle it in their shoes.
03-09-2015 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr0n3
Maybe they decided that giving us a ~$100 cumulative refund from 5 accounts that probably took over 10k out of the economy was a slap in the face. It's probably how I'd handle it in their shoes.
I think if you were in their shoes you would have handled this problem a lot better from the beginning. As things stand right now which is worse, thinking WPN confiscated funds and decided to keep them hoping to bury the problem or thinking the cheats actually were able to get funds off the site and is now in their scummy hands. Regardless of what has actually happened to those funds we should be asking WPN one important question. What is the policy/procedure for funds IF they are confiscated from accounts caught colluding. The only answer I have gotten from support, security and reps is that they are not going to make any comments on that topic. Seems to me we as players have the right to know since it is our money that we have been cheated out of.

      
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