Has this been addressed in any way? Looks like several of those guys are still at it.

Also kind of suspicious are DonaldGrump, Fidel_Cashflow, WarenBluffit all from Finland reg the 60s-200s at the same time. Seems kind of transparent for a botter to do, but if WPN doesn't give a **** (which they don't) then transparency doesn't matter. I've only played a couple games against these guys (they all decline me unlike the Russians) so don't have much to say about their game. Also I guess fairly unlikely they are bots given they decline me, but could easily be humans just clicking what bot tells them to do.

Add MALCOLMXRAISE to Finland list. Something fishy is going on here for sure ...

To be fair, the Finns seem to have diff rematch policies and their play seems relatively human.

Those u mentioned are 100% not bots

What makes you say this?

Something ***** weird is going on. Obv DonaldGrump, Fidel_Cashflow, WarrenBluffit all sitting the 240s right now. Why the **** are there all these new accounts from Finland with these screennames that all sit at the same time?

doesnt mean they come from the same place and grind the same hours mean their are bots. in fact, if i were a bot maker i wouldnt create so many bots at the same time to not arise suspicion from people like you.

What you would do is pretty irrelevant to the argument. I would guess those accounts were friends or the same person on different skins rather than bots but whatever. That said, bots are real and they have been around for years. Its extremely likely there are bots on WPN. There will likely always be bots on the online poker networks, from here on out.

Didn't realize you could play on diff skins at same time, that is possible. I don't think they are bots (as I stated previously), but I think suspicious behavior such as this should still be discussed. In any case it is probably bad for rec players to have weird **** like this going on (player on 4 skins at same time/4 friends playing nearby together with similar screennames/etc).

I see the Russian trust Sakka/BUNSUN/Obama are still at it.

is ArianaGrande a bot?

just block them. i expect them to be around for a very very long time.

"just block them" ???

I was just playing PLO during happy hour with that name today or yesterday. No clue about it being a bot, just remember that name sticking out and being annoyed by a play they made. Are they a cash reg or sng reg?

Is this for cash game or tournaments? Any details onthis?

Does anyone ever suspect they might be getting superused somehow at times in the micro jackpots or hypers? It sounds crazy but some times it just seems that way with the bad calls that always seem to get there AIPF or insane calldowns postflop. You could ask why would they do that at the micro's BUT that would actually be the perfect place to do it because no one would suspect or believe it. I don't know maybe I'm just paranoid lol.

My advice would be, don't try and bluff so much at the micros

The ones I am talking about are for HUSNGs. I could just not sit them myself obviously, but that isn't really the problem. They are getting action from tons of rec players who would otherwise be sitting people. They also may be discouraging people from the site. If I were a rec player and thought I could be playing against a Russian bot or something else funky then I might think something unfair is going on/stop using the site (though not sure what reasoning people actually use). I think it's clearly bad for the site (and poker economy) to have this type of stuff tolerated.

That said I did dump some $$ to the Russians myself. Originally I assumed that they'd make the typical mistakes that most midstakes regs make and adjust in the typical ways. But they didn't and just kept on playing their nonstandard strategy, and I was kind of the sucker for adjusting in horrible ways to how they were actually playing. I then continued to play them a bit more out of curiosity. Obviously I could just not play against them myself now that I know what I know, but that isn't really the main issue.

This is for headsup hyper turbo SNGs.

they will not do anything about it.

I actually dont know if anyone has pressed the issue with them but every interaction ive had, they just ignore it. they get their rake

funny I read this, just had a convo with three long time regs of wpn HUSNG last night in person

none are rigtards, tooo much of course over the years paranoid thoughts arise at times...but anyways everyone of them said the same thing

showed me specific instances and all of our winrates over last three months have decreased to below zero

these are all hard working people who put hours into their game every day for over a decade in various forms of poker

run bad for four people at same game type for same period of time seems well a lil strange to say the least

it is amazing that the 3 stakes everyone was discussing are the three stakes that are removed....just to add to the paranoid thoughts

also 98% of any player that has played the Russians all scream the same thing...but here we are years down the road and they still are in the lobbies

never been a rigtard....of course have always had thoughts at times..I think that is perfectly natural while doing something over the internet....but something does not seem right

It is not possible. The software prevents this from happening. Try loading up two clients for yourself, it won't work.

I think you answered your own question.

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Nope. I'm close to 100% sure I'm being superused now. Who can I share hand history's with that can analyze them? Please help someone. This is a big deal.

I always check out pokerdope and put in the variables for the variance calculator and remind myself that I'm running only one SD under EV.

keyword: always

I doubt you are, but if it's happening that would obviously be a big deal.

Feel free to PM me with the user name(s) in question and a few of the more egregious hand examples, and I'll give you my honest opinion privately if you like.

Is this. Real thing just started playing on WPN should I cash out now ??

I play cash with russians and not a single one is a bot IMO. I think they just play a different style and crush so people jump to o its a bot. I don't play sitngoes tho. I wouldn't be worried about it. There is enough bad players to play.

idk if the bots are a real thing I don't play HU hypers and if there are bots in the games I do play I don't find their game intimidating in the least. I haven't run across too many Russian players at the hours I play but the ones I've played with who get good results I'm certain are not bots, they're just good players.