Russian bots
Or are they house players part of a script

I have noticed every and I mean every lag down time
When all sng hu lobbies are not accessible
The exact second they reappear boom the Russians are there

Anyone else notice this

I have reviewed all my stats for a huge sample probably the biggest sample out of everyone site wide

Every stat number for any situation is no more then a five percent difference most being .1-3 percent or virtually the same

I posted the basic stats buried in another thread for vpip,3b,pr,etc

Something stinks and I am sick of this purgatory hell that wpn has created

You have countless regs.new depositors complaining everywhere and nothing is ever mentioned

How can they publicly avoid this discussion for years after countless inquiries

I am sick of the fair gaming bs and this continues

I want a petition to get a statement
Everywhere they avoid this topic everywhere but interject thoughts into every other matter and to crazy extremes they have defended their stance on fairness

Add a decline button allow players to vote with their feet and decline these annoying obvious bots

It's killing a huge portion of your population

Mods I do not want this moved to anywhere this time
Great discussion from long time regs where discussing this issue to have it rudely moved to some lumped in thread and buried the discussion within other bs
This is a specific issue that needs to be publicly addressed by the top person with authority at network

That question, concerns thread is lol as reps can't even acknowledge it

I don't blame this on everyday support people this is something us regulars want an answer from straight from the top

The CEO always avoids the situation as well but accuse them of stealing money and hell breaks loose

Well I am accusing you the site of stealing from players here...yeah I said it
Do nothing and your part of the problem
People are losing huge money to these bots from unfair gameplay
That to me is being taken advantage of and if the site doesn't stop it leads me to believe they are behind this bot ring

Did anyone else feel great about the CEO stance on dons and what measure they go through to prevent collusion

I did not

I thought it was disgusting actually

How is it going to far saying they are creating an unfair game play situation which in turn is cheating

If they are to lazy to be vigilant that alone to me justifies the words
Also and I respect your opinion and agree with you as well but
If you think they like the rake that is why nothing is done that is nefarious and imo cheating players

They do run like god's its sick really
I just laugh when I see there cards flop the nuts and think how this time and then miracle miracle for the win

If they are bots they would have to shut down due to refunds
I understand why they don't want to speak about it
But when the crap has finally killed the game type and they have all the money from game type what then

If they are bots site is done imo
Wpn basically has there entire future riding on players never proving they are bots
If it came out, they ignored for years that would be final straw

When that much is at stake, I ain't trusting them to do right thing

Simple solution for all..... Add a decline button
Solves everything in regards to this situation
Allows players to simply not play them

If virtually everyone thinks, feels same way, I have yet to hear/read differently
About them being bots

I ain't gonna sugar coat this anymore
I am flat out saying unfair and we are being cheated

How can any other conclusion be drawn if they are indeed bots
Riddle me that

Agree with you ^

Decline button

Confirmed insane

Russian coke must be >usa
Twenty four hour session after twenty four hour session

Must be nice to play forever

Are these bots really that good?

If I want to learn to play HU sng better, will playing these bots make me better, or are they just too good to beat?

Are bots possible in MTT's. Since I've been on acr is nothing but getting beat by 2 and 3 outers, runner runners. Very frustrating. And I only play $10 tournaments.

please don't take this as an attact, blueevil1974, as it's just a honest question? are you from Russia and/or do you have any relation to the bludevil Russian botter account that was just banned from PartyPoker?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-view-1474198/

regarding the OP, this has been an issue on WPN. there was a thread about cash games a while back. about a week after the thread was made, which showed strong relation between about 5 accounts that all played the same stakes from the same location were very likely bots, they up and vanished never to be seen again. my suggestion would be to make everything as public as possible regarding correlation in stats, game type, country of origin, possibly even some SN's (I'm still hesitant here, innocent until proven guilty, etc.) and hope that there's enough evidence and public outcry that WPN simply can't sweep this under the rug anymore. force them to do an investigation or maybe even spook the botters like happened at cash.

of all the things we complain about in this sub-forum, game security/integrity I feel is the biggest flaw of WPN. I've seen zero evidence to prove they even have a security department outside of cashier issues!

No. I'm from Alabama. Blue devil is because I love duke basketball.

word, ty! tough week for your boys

I'm originally from Ohio so it's been great for me! These rednecks were crying!!! They still hate people from up north down here.

Has anyone seen yelowfinquality's sharkscope graph? Looks like he beat Obaminator like 68 times in row. Then managed to lose the next 82 out of 92. Wtf is going on there? Not exact numbers i just did a quick count

Caught up with the recent stream from the CEO earlier today. Re the DON collusion issue, he plans eventually to replace them with 50/50s and introduce 8-handed DONs, but he doesn't plan to do anything else about it. He suggested that we not play if we are concerned about being cheated in the DONs.

That's both a terrible attitude and excellent advice, and seems to extend to management's attitude toward the network as a whole. If you object to being ripped off by colluders, bots, and frequent disconnects, don't play here. If you like to be screwed on sites where management keeps it real, come on in.

I have no reason to believe that WPN is actively trying to cheat anyone themselves. Although since WPN seems to be fine with ripping off players due to its general incompetence and lack of interest in fairness, maybe it should cut itself in. Why accidentally screw players for nothing when they could intentionally screw them for profit?

Some ridic rng going on for sure. But yelow's just playing him so he can take up other lobbies.

I respect you too as your my boss.

Im yelowfin im legit.
ive played thoudands of games vs mfg123 and now obaminator @ 120s £ suspect they re bots.
just my 2 cents

hi yellowfin
i know your legit and brave for battling bots at higher stakes
i respect your game


is there one reg on site that doesnt suspect "the russians" are bots lol

so any of the non believers

you litterally have every high volume reg on the entire network "thinking" they may all be bots

yet nothing...never a public statement
never an investigation
nothing

gl yellow

also as i stated before
every laggy stint they are gonzo
snap second things clear up you will see all of them

now obv they might not like playing during lag,understandable
my point everytime lag/network issue they are never there ever
but split second husngs run nonlag again they are all back

for years now

just seems funny

Who cares about bots when we have people using racial slurs in the chat box? RACIAL SLURS AND EPITAPHS!!!!!!!!

Think of the children!!!!

In this day and age there is no chatblock button available for those bros with to block those spewing epitaths?

CEO didn't say it since it wasn't brought up but I think they are taking the same approach with these guys as the DONs where if you don't like it don't play them.

fyi
you can block chat by switching to stats or whatever button is
but kinda leveling yoself cuz dude may be on spewtilt mode

the chat flies by so quick a high volume player may miss, lags who would wanna spend time chatting

i understand CEO's POV....but he is killing his own action really
so nobody open sit for fear of unfair game play...hmmmmm a poker site that does not want people in lobbies seems strange

this is a simple fix really, easy as a button for husng
D-E-C-L-I-N-E match
I understand all the negative points about it..i really do
but in the case here it would actually help the economy as far as regs open sitting and every

so I am suppose to stare at a lobby waiting for a fish to magically open sit,rather open sitting and if I dont wanna botreg war I can simply don't

racial slurs ha...pstars taught me how much "nazi" was a slur to germans..when they had the german poker skool thang running and a butt load of them starting flocking pushing with their q7o BS insta banned

but anyways decline button

also
when i play with friends, we keep laptops non facing, don't discuss hands while action is live, don't share data during live matches nor upload to each others data base,never ghost,heck we can barely agree on each others strats lol

never play MTTS from same house,never sit at same cash table
sucks to cuz during big event series would be nice to rent hotel and have a grind out but is against terms..so i don't

it is for the simple fact it is nice to have a co worker sometimes..as much as a pain the arse they are at regylar jobs try being isolated for years at work it is strange

my point if they are in fact human controlled...i doubt but for discussion purposes
i would wager they are using some method(s) that would be unfair

heck the frigging numbers don't lie...they are simply crushing the game type more then a reasonable expectation compared to the rest of the population..over the biggest sample size

they are holding other top regs back from fair profit who are playing by the rules

that is why even know I did not play the milly..I was watching super LOL'ed when the "fair game play" BS appeared on screen

i know many regs who would open sit more if they were a non issue, and those lobbies would pop again
and I am not talking about bum hunting many regs dont mind reg warring here just not bot warring

its BS really even if for sng's they are just the best ever...a HU cash player deals with not getting action why should a HUSNG player just be allowed to auto action

if they are best on site and it is a HU game type why would anyone want to play them? cuz they have no choice
all these talks of bringing recs back around yeah multi russians from same area spread every stake doesn't defer them ha


and if they are making a "ton" from HUSNGs why the F have we not gotten any beast/sngcrush type love..once in the history for a month and it was poorly thought out

just looking at all the angles and it all still leads to BS
that is why the thread title is not out of line!!

edit..also anyone else notice the snap reaction to a guy accusing them of taking 10K....and in regards to these bots nothing ever