i can imagine if the blind levels were changed in a way that when you were late regging at the last level, you at least had maybe 25-30 blinds to play with, not less than 5. and more so for the bigger tourneys. with the little ones, two hours seems okay. (with the 10/15 minute blind levels)

Perhaps trying to promote the "G160" or whatever those tournaments are called could add some more daily/nightly additions to the schedule giving players the option of a 4/5 hour mtt (as opposed to 6-9hours+). . There is not one guaranteed above 1k, not one special tournament and they are all poorly scheduled. Either delete them all and replace them with some new standard 15minute tournaments that are new/exciting, or actually promote the "brand" and offer some tournaments of value. This is NOT because players prefer the longer tournaments/longer late reg, merely an example of how poorly the G160M are scheduled, both buyin/GTD and time wise. If you look on every other network turbos at the low-midstake levels are way more popular than reg speeds (which are 10 MINUTES). Something needs to be changed, or just delete all that space in the lobby.

I mean has the 20$ rebuy 1k guaranteed ever ran? Surely a tournament that NEVER runs should be deleted/replaced? How about the random 30 dollar 600$, 27.50, etc. They literally NEVER (not once) run. The G160's that do run are all buyins $5 and below that see a field of like 20-45 people? (im guessing..).

I personally think the schedule needs a complete overhaul. The tournaments have no names, excluding the "big 10" (which means what exactly???), no flare and see very little promotion or excitement. Of course WPN knocks it out of the park with their million Sunday and other random events (MOMOMO,OSV etc), there is no denying that. I am not saying naming a tournament "THE MEGA SATURDAY (for example)" will magically turn out 1000 players, however I think it is essential that WPN has some sort of daily "promoted" tournament that looks exciting/different and new. Recreational players flock to a pretty color/fancy name in the lobby with a nice GTD. Exactly like the blue text+OSV name does. This site does very well during series like OSV and their needs to be a reason for players to stick around for the regular daily schedule.

Some things to consider. Also Try promoting Sundays with "SUNDAY EDITIONS" or something similar. I do not think Sundays are "perfect" as you put it when the 66 4k is gone, the biggest 55 is still 5k (on a Sunday!!) and there is not ONE late night turbo above 22.

My question to WPN rep: Is there a specific date as to when the new schedule will be tested/put in the lobby?

+11111. Also sorry, forgot to mention all times I post are EST.

Agree on the GI60 recommendation. I register both the 30 at 10 et and the 25 at 11 et whenever I am playing. These are cancelled 100% of the time, seems like a waste of space to even have these on the schedule.

Yeah after thinking about it deleting the G160M seems like a good idea. Replace them with half turbo/half 15min level tournaments. A 11rebuy, 55 1pm 5hour late reg, late night turbo 44 8pm.

Also of course include some lower buyins.

Wanted to put in my 2 cents about ACR. A lot of potential and a smooth running site for the most part. But here is what I think is holding it back from being top notch.

1. Ridiculously top heavy pay outs. They really have to go in this day and age of poker especially with a mild online site as far as traffic is concerned. Too much money going to such a small %. Back around 10 years ago I wouldn't care but the poker economy is hurting. The absurdly top heavy payouts are hurting the site. You have to bink or your bankroll is toast.

2. Reduce the late reg time! My god its insane how long you can late reg the majority of tournaments. NO one wants to reg on time because of this.

3. A decent early schedule. If you build it, they will come. I think all US sites need something. A $25 5k at 10am pst or something along those lines.

4. The majority of structures are WAY WAY too long. I think the super long structure fad is fading and most players dont wanna play that long for online tournaments that really don't have monster payouts. You can make a good structure that isn't obnoxiously long. 15 minute blinds online are extremely unnecessary (except a major or whatever). Plus you have nearly every level known to man. Pros or amateurs don't wanna play 10+ hours in a ****ing online tourney anymore. The cream will rise to the top with a quicker structure trust me. Early ante's please. You have a late 109 with the best structure on the site. 3k starting stack, 12 min levels and early antes. Do this for all the tournies with possibly more starting chips for the bigger buy ins.

SO basically you have a super top heavy pay out where players have to play nearly all day to go deep and fizzle out in lets say 6th. and get paid out nothing. Its sucks, its annoying, the site isn't benefiting from it and neither are the players. Flatten the payouts structures a tad, get rid of the obnoxious late reg you have, and speed these tournaments up a tad to keep our sanity. maybe a 10 min structure for 1st 2 hrs, 12 min hours 2-4, then 15 from then on?

This would be my suggestion for an outline of a daily schedule, with the green being daily tournaments adjusted on the weekends, the blue for Sunday only tournaments, the orange for Saturday and the red for the nightly special tournaments. This doesn't include micro stakes, nor does it include non-holdem or many variety(ie. heads up/4max/8max) games, but i think this is realistic start for designing the mid-high stakes schedule

N/L Holdem Schedule
12:00ET Daily Kickoff $109 $5k (Sat $7.5k, Sun $10k) *5k chips/15 min levels/3hr lr
13:00ET Daily $33 $3k (Sat $4k, Sun $5k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2hr lr
14:00ET Super Sunday $11 $10k *10k chips/15 min levels/5hr lr
14:00ET Daily $55 $5k (Sat $6k, Sun $8k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2hr lr
15:00ET Daily $44 $4k (Sat $5k, Sun $6k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2hr lr
15:00ET Super Sunday $109 $25k *10k chips/15 min levels/5hr lr
16:00ET Daily $66 $6k (Sat $7k, Sun $8k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2hr lr
16:00ET Super Sunday Special $215 $125k *15k chips/15 min levels/5hr lr
17:00ET Daily $88 $8k (Sat $9k, Sun $10k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2hr lr
17:00ET Super Sunday High Roller $530 $50k *20k chips/20 min levels/5 hr lr
18:00ET Daily $109 $10k (Sat $12.5k, Sun $15k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
18:00ET Daily Monster $33 $10k (Sat $12.5k, Sun $15k) *5k chips/15 min levels/3 hr lr
18:00ET Daily $22 $4k (Sat $5k, Sun $6k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
19:00ET Daily $5.50 $2k (Sat $2.5k, Sun $3k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
19:00ET Saturday Special 6-Max $215 $25k *5k chips/15 min levels/3 hr lr
19:00ET Super Sunday Last Chance $215 $50k *10k chips/15 min levels/3 hr lr
19:00ET Daily High Roller $215 $20k (Doesn’t run on Sat/Sun) *10k chips/15min levels/3 hr lr
19:00ET Daily Re-buy $11r $4k (Sat $5k, Sun $6k) *2k chips+2k re-buy+4k add-on/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET Monday Mulligan $162 $15k *10k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET Tuesday Turbo $162 $15k *10k chips/5 min levels/1 hr lr
20:00ET Mid-Week Wednesday $162 $15k *10k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET Thursday TKO $162($15KO) $15k *10k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET TGIF $162 $15k *10k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET Daily Mini Re-buy $3r $1k (Sat $1.5k, Sun $2k) *2k chips+2k re-buy+4k add-on/12 min levels/2 hr lr
20:00ET Daily $11 $5k (Sat $6k, Sun $7k) *3k chips/12 min levels/2 hr lr
21:00ET Daily Turbo $109 $8k (Sat $10k, Sun $12k) *5k chips/5 min levels/1 hr lr

Really good post and a realistic schedule. Even if the GTDS are a bit smaller id be happy. May be missing a 6max and 8max tournament or two, but even if WPN took 50% of that schedule it would be amazing. Also even if 100% of the mtts listed (non turbos) turn into 15min levels 3hour late reg id still be happy. The schedule just simply needs more variety (more mtts), some fancy names and some flare/excitement. WPN rep any comments about anything new?

Excellent post, I hope WPN is listening.

Post more.

Can we keep the mo mo mo PLO special tournaments on the regular schedule? These seem to be doing well.

Disagree, these tournaments are a promotion and should stay that way. That being said clearly there is demand for plo tournaments, so adding in a few good value plo mtts a day from 11-109 with a weekly 109+ would be a great idea.

So basically, you just said don't do that, do something really similar instead. lol

Ok that works for me.

The schedule is woefully lacking in gtd omaha events, the success of this promo demonstrates the void... I don't particularly care if they fill it with the same schedule as the promo or something similar, would just like to see them fill it.

I disagree, at very least in part. I didn't read the whole post but WPN certainly does NOT have too heavy payouts. If anything they should be way more top heavy. First place is often less than 20% of the prize pool.

+1 anyone complaining about WPN payouts being to top heavy isa huge nit or just doesn't play enough mtts to truly know what payout %'s should be. WPN payouts are very flat and more money should be going to top 3 places in the majority of tournaments. (Obv excluding the million 500). I personally think I would quit WPN if the payouts became even flatter. As it is I really think top 3 payouts should pay a higher % and especially 1st.

Yeah you guys are right, I agree with the rest of that post but wasn't really considering the payouts, sloppy on my part.

Here's what I think the problem with payouts is and I think this has been addressed before. The higher buy in events pay out to 17-18% of the field, while the small/micro buy ins pay to 12-13%. This is the opposite of how it should be imo. Micro players are more likely to bust their roll with short payouts, paying more places there is better for the health of the game and to keep the micro players interested and happy. The higher buy ins on the other hand attract the type of player who wants a more FT/Top 3 heavy payout and who don't like that 18% of the field gets paid and 1st is less than 20% of the prize pool.

Flip that around and I think a lot more players will be happy.

+1 Agree. PLEASE consider paying more out to top 3 spots especially 1st.

Hey WPN rep any comments or plans for the new year? Any post/comments are welcome by you even if you only choose a few points to adress.

There's a big problem when we can't make a deal in a MTT under the current payout stricture. In the 25k on Sunday, we played heads up for 3k. First was 7k and second was 4k. Call me old fashion but id rather not play a 3k hu sng to end a tourny.

Hey, WPN rep why are you not participating in this thread? Please do not just wait until the new schedule is set/in the lobby and just copy/paste the schedule here. This thread was supposed to be the players attempt to engage with you about improving the schedule. Any posts are welcome, even if you disagree with all of us. Why does it take so long for any change to happen?

On a side note please delete satellites to tournaments that do not exist. Example 11.50 hyper to a 109 at 5:15. There is no 109 at 515.

I think as far as payouts are concern, I still think the payouts are super top heavy. Adding a variety of different payouts will help. A different variety of structures as well. Question for longstructures ironically, do you not think the structures on this site are way way too long?

Payouts are not super top heavy on WPN. If anything they should put more money in the top three spots and pay out less players.

What they should do, rather than continue to pay out 20 or so percent of the field, is that they should make the tournaments payout less players and make it slightly more top heavy so that 5th and 6th place would be somewhat meaningful. They certainly shouldn't be giving out less than they currently do to top 3. That's nuts, and I know that I would certainly basically stop playing completely if they did that.

That being said I am all for some shorter structures and variety, but saying that WPN is too top heavy is just insane. I mean right now, we sometimes get 25% of the field being paid. That's far too many.

final table deals solves any issues I have with the payouts.

OK, but what happens when I (or someone else) refuse(s)?

Daily - $1 1k
Daily - $3 3k
Daily - $5 5k
Daily - $10 10k
Daily - $25 25k
Daily - $50 50k
Daily - $100 100k
Daily - $200 200k
Daily - $500 500k

No, but seriously just make all on demands pop at 6 players like the 5.5's and have hour long late reg like the .55's. Maybe consider my daily suggestion for a sunday thing. The OD thing is super easy to do like right now though!!! Also could make some hyper and normal OD's not just turbo's. OD's that popped at 6 players and have 1 hour late reg caters to the people wanting "more, shorter" tournies. I think it could also make grinders happy. Maybe even an OD specific leaderboard. OD changes can be done tonight!!!!!!

dont payout 20%