+2, also might allow $15s to be a bit softer instead of the ~25=40 situation now.

I think best tiers would be $2, $7, $20, $50. Each tier ~3x bigger than the previous,

Hi,
quick question: how much chipev /game do you need to be breakeven? 30 oder 35?

32.

+3

Or this:

I'm playing in WPN for about 6-7 months. Is that just me that feel that there are couple bots in 10s, 25s, and 40s? Some of them, "Winenall", "Kingspinz" and "dettlaf2016".

Anyone feels the same?

Been covered numerous times. Yes there are many many bots on this site.

Players doing well, running well, winning does not equal bot

If you play 25s and 40s consistently you know what I'm talking about.

Already talked with support and they told me they could not tell me the result of the investigation. After all, looks like WPN want these bots playing because they create traffic. The worst thing is the people that play against them think they are playing fairly.

Again, if you play these games everyday you know what I'm talking about.

Why would you play these games everyday lol? it's not even based on poker talent, just coin flips

Since when is flipping not a poker talent?

Since it's stupid to gamble a buy in to win 95% of the time only double the amount while having to defeat 2 person, who, with a stack of 500 chips, have an equal chance of beating you since if you lose 1 all in because of variance, you can't come back even if you have more poker skills because 500 chips is too little.
It's like betting 2$ on a blackjack table but having to play against 2 person and the profit is 4$.

Whoops, sorry, I thought you were being funny. To your point, the way to overcome variance in short/fast games is to play a lot of them. Rather than pressing a larger edge over fewer games/sessions (MTT/cash), you press a thin edge over many games.

Good luck at the tables

I agree with that mate, but i feel like people who play jackpot most of the time do it either in tilt or for fast quick money in short term that's why i said that, of course there are great players who have the bankroll and play in the long run, good luck to you too sir!

Question about these jackpot sngs on wpn. I play some of these on stars with the spin and goes. I see the structure is the exact same as stars. Is there any positive/negatives to playing these jackpots compared to spin and go on stars?


I see rb is 27 percent whereas stars is 30 percent max. But its still 27% rb max no matter what on wpn right? I played very little if any at wpn a while back as i didnt like how slow the cards are dealt etc on wpn.


Also i heard there is a bot issue. Are there any bots playing these jackpot sngs?


Whats a good roi for the 10s, 25s and 40s? How is it compared to stars?


Is it possible to make a decent amount of playing these jackpots solely? How much are the top regs making at these? I look at sharkscope for wpn and there doesn't seem to be that much huge winners at all. But i assume with the rb, its pretty okay? When the 10th highest profit earner only made 6k for the year, thats not that good unless rb is pretty big compared to it. I also assume most of the leaderboard on sharkscope for wpn top winners is all jackpot sngs? And in these jackpot sngs... all are factored in the sharkscope?

Bots bots and bots. Riddling the player pool.

Rake return at WPN is complex due to Sit&Crush (SNC). The first issue is that 25% of SNG rake goes to feed SNC, so you do not get rakeback on that portion. That means 27% rakeback is actually 20.25%. If you cash in SNC, then you will end up with more than 27% due to the prize. How much more than 27% will depend on where you place (higher is not always better) and how much of your volume is during SNC happy hours.

There is also the option of a VIP program instead of the flat "27%" rakeback, which can be better for consistently high volume players.

I made a post recently which tried to show a rough estimate of effective rakeback earned for players placing on last week's SNC leaderboard (actual amounts will vary depending on happy hours, bonus clearing, etc).

exactly this. it has exactly nothing to do with playing ranges correctly based on given variables (opponent, stack size....)

Maybe 1400 games might be too small a sample size, but i def dont agree that these games are just "shove and hope, no skill". Im running 15 % roi in them and see just the most god awful plays in them. Only thing im not liking is that thru 1400 $2 games i havent played a single one for more than $16. Has anyone else played similar volume as me and not played for more than $16?


SNG 1,404 $0.29 $1.88 14.7% $409

2500 with nothing higher than 8x. It's about an 8% chance to go 1400 with nothing higher than 8x (about 7% for 2500).

"God awful plays" and games are "no skill" do not add up. (But I get what you're saying.)

glgl

Sorry to bother you and come back to this post, but if i play only on cash games, i will still get deducted money for the 'sit and crush' and actually just get 20%? I'm new to acr and i don't really understand how the leaderboard for that sit and crush thing work lol :/

What I posted is just for sit&go and jackpot poker. For cash games, there is a somewhat similar leaderboard (The Beast) that is also funded from rake and thus reduces your rakeback (but increases it if you place on the leaderboard). The amounts vary, however, and I am not familiar enough with the details to give specific amounts. glgl

It seems no1 cares about these bots, including WPN moderators and support. Nice job you guys are doing. Keep playing against them and let them keep winning the jackpots and leaving after that.

I WOULD NEVER PUT MY OWN MONEY INTO THIS SEEMINGLY NEVER-ENDING SH*T PARADE. NOT WORTH A PENNY.

Hey, Mr. Lahey!