The variance of these is brutal, but if you play with a 100 buyin BR and single table, it shouldn't be too bad, hope the degenerate in me can stay away from $40s today and stay at $10s

I am winning in the 10's so far.

Time to update the login splash

I won the first couple of these and then AA's and KK's started getting my but kicked every single time I got em.

won the first 4 $40s i played, sick brag

Love the 40's won a $240, $160, and a $80 out of my first four.

Question about this move though, why skip over $20 BI?

I really hope that you guys are right about these attracting a lot more players otherwise I see them starting to canabalize the MTTs.

Also - c'mon we all know 6% rake is high and there's no way the 40 dollar ones should have the same rake.

The faulty balance showing up in these is for our own protection imo

And canabalize the regular sitngos. I'm also concerned that if the Jackpot players are the only ones winning the S&C money, that's going to even further decimate the sitngos.

I'm having difficulty believing that players who join the site to gamble are going to very readily switch over to games that require a lot of patience.

After 110 games I'm breaking even at the $2 & $10, rb puts me up like $10 tho

highest was 6x

The rake at $40's should be 5%(in line with stars) not 6%.

Well, a rake decrease might result in more ROW players coming, who will certainly be mostly regs. So it's a double-edged sword.

I don't mind the 6% that much, but I see the point behind requesting 5% (more specifically, increasing the frequency of 4x payouts from 21366 to 22116 out of 100K because this is the way of redistribution that will result in the biggest decrease of the risk of ruin and in the best 'grindability' increase possible, while if that money goes to feed higher multipliers, it will be hardly an extra incentive for any players anyway).

Yep - I agree. But it's hard to argue that WPN hasn't made sound decisions in the past to grow the site and it's not like they don't make these decisions rashly.

Speaking of, traditional SnGs indeed can be moved to a separate leaderboard from Jackpots, like it's done, say, at FTP. But the problem is that the prize money in the SnG leaderboard will then be much smaller than in the JP one anyway, and it won't be as attractive as the JP one.

I guess, we can just say goodbye to traditional SnGs because they're 'too boring', like we did to FL because it has smaller variance than NL (though HU FL is said to be very entertaining). It's not 2004 any longer - massive money (bankroll) needs to be invested into the poker economy in order to make a significant profit. In a few years, we'll need to deposit and risk our last shirts if we want to earn more than at a real job.

I don't think that sending off the sitngo players to Bovada would be a very good idea.

I think its fine to include jackpot sngs in sit and crush without making its own progressive leaderboard, reason being the sngs havent really taken off in the last 2 years since sit and crushs introduction.

Well, I'm obviously fine with old-style-only SnG players contributing to the SnC because they're never gonna make big cashes in SnC from next week on

anyone elses bankroll not updating on the register page of the JP sngs my cashier is right but even after a win no money shows up on the JP page to the point where ive been grinding all day and i cant register the 2 dollar ones even tho i have plenty in my br

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Will a significant jp ever hit in the ten's

Yes.

Hi... Here are my results/trip report so far for the JackPot SnGs (OldmanRiv3r):

Games played: 1013 (all at $2) -graph only shows 869ish, another 144 on my laptop-

ROI (no rewards etc): -7% (-$41 buys in/ -$82)

ROI (with rewards/deposit bonus): -.005/-$5

Graph Below (can only really show CHIP ev PT4)..... The first 700 games was 12-16 tables (sorry for the slow play if anyone at my tables), last 300 games @ 6-8 tables (feel this will be optimum)

Trip Report:

My background is 50K+ 6 max hypers & 35K+ HU Hypers. My feelings are the $2 games will be very low ROI if not break even over a larger sample (rake & if you don't hit a decent Jackpot), I too expereinced some very sick stretches but as the variance is catching up to each other (good/bad). I plan on playing a few more weeks at the $2 (3K game sample) to work out my open/defend ranges while fine tuning my HUD then move to the $10s & $40s.

Good: Very fishy & bad regs not understanding HU or ranges (ex. open shoving Kx @ 20+ BB deep)
Bad: The site freezes a bunch during games many times everyday since the launch causing disconnects all the time. With the very low ROIs this does not help
Ugly: The variance is really sick, used to sick variance but these 1,000 games has shown me variance of epic proportions (both ways LOL)

**The worst thing about the freezing is when the Jackpot is rolling, then it freezes for a second or two on $5,000 then unfreezes to the $4, heart wrenching...**

better reduce your table count

Looks like you might have some other games mixed in there. For example the big drop right at the beginning.

Hey Max.. Hope all is well... This is chip EV (looks worse than it really is), my first 10 games or so was puking gross... Think I got in 80-20 or so and lost them all, where I asked myself is this "real life?"