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04-17-2017 , 12:37 AM

#6851

ChanceH

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 639

ok says tourney suspended by host - and at least we can pull up lobby

04-17-2017 , 12:38 AM

#6852

Nitross

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 373

Are they going to let it run now that it is back up?

Or when it's suspended, it's over

04-17-2017 , 12:38 AM

#6853

Derp!

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 687

Back in- My tourney was paused

04-17-2017 , 12:38 AM

#6854

st0las

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 29

everythinig is suspended but its up

04-17-2017 , 12:38 AM

#6855

puregenius

banned

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 356

Quote:

Originally Posted by MLSFTW

It won't kill OSS and BOSS. We have no other options- this has been happening for years and we always come back.

Sad. But True... we have no other option.

04-17-2017 , 12:39 AM

#6856

CALLIBAN

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 103

FFS, ACR. Really?
I've been playing jackpots for the last 4 hours and everything was fine. Suddenly couldn't register in more and now, after restarting, is "configuring" forever.
This is really messing up with my work...
I conclude I have to start searching another site to play.
(just before hitting the button to post, the poker client stopped configuring and it's already showing everything besides the jackpots. I hope it's a matter of minutes now...)

05:40 Europe

04-17-2017 , 12:39 AM

#6857

kevbot

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohsen

Hi everyone.
I am going to explain to you what is going on recently at WPN on some level of technicality so you might understand the situation a little better.
I'm a player at ACR myself , Cashgame , Micro Player (Not even a grinder!) playing 2-3 tables 10NL max!
And I'm not connected to ACR or anything. But I guess some explanation on the situation might help some people on this frustrating time.
So , What's a DDOS? (Simplified)
I have a Website. My website has a network that can accept 5000 viewers per second.
Now all of a sudden , somebody with control of a huge network of over 50.000 Nodes (devices) start to open my website in 1 second.
Booom , My website can't answer any other viewers. That's Called DOS (Denial Of Service)
Now , imagine 20 people with the same amount of devices available to them , from 20 different places run their attack (viewing my website) at the same time. now I have what , 1,000,000 viewers !!!!! That's called Distributed Denial Of Service.

How can we stop it?
First of all , It's really hard to mitigate a simple DOS attack , But imagine the attack is much bigger scale!

BUT a simple explanation on how the tech team is working on mitigating the attack at the moment:
Remember I told you there is 50.000 devices trying to view our website? (In this case , Open poker client app)
We have to identify WHO is really our customer and WHO is just a crazy dude who is attacking us. Drop the request from crazy dude and allow our customers to get through.
"Why can't you upgrade your internet connection to support 50,000,000 viewer per second" You might ask! The answer is , even if we do that , a person whose running this sort of attack is powerful enough to visit our site 50X as much as we can support! So believe me when I say it can't get fixed by throwing money at it and upgrade the uplink..

So , We go through some logs that we have of attacker and see some patterns on it. (For example , You will see a lot of IP's from a Country named X and Y trying to attack you.) btw , IP (short for Internet Protocol) is a unique identifier that everyone connects to internet has his/her own.
We close our website to them using our firewall. in the very next few minutes , We see attacks start all over again with a different set of IPs.. And this process goes on and on!
So WHAT WE DO?
We have to DENY everybody's access to website EXCEPT the ones we now are real.(Not bots , Not hacked servers etc..)
How can we do it?
We gather information through the web that tells us about well-known attacker's IPs. And will tell us the list of IP's that are real and in the hand of Customers (Not some shady Hosting provider that is known to serve attackers!)
It takes time to list ALL of the true IP's of people.
And like any other IT matter , there is ALWAYS False positive involved.
you might be blocked by mistake... You might not be "White-Listed" yet.

That's why some people can access the servers , And some Can't.

My suggestions to you:
# DO NOT USE any sort of Proxy , VPN , etc... to get access to site. Most of the proxy/VPN servers are listed as "NO People" at databases.
# Stay away from MTTs until a formal confirmation of REPS.
# for SNGs or Cashgames , start with a small game and check your status. If your okay at 2NL (Don't see any lags etc...) You will be OK at 2000NL as well.

### I suggest If it's possible for you at the moment , Don't try to play and wait for the tech team to finish their job.

And think about this , How much Can you earn per hour? $10? $20? $500? $10,000 ?
How much WPN can earn per hour? (I'm not saying numbers :-D ) Beside the fact that there are a massive amount of people who will stop using WPN and their reputation will suffer from this situation in the long run.

Bottom line is , This is WAAAAAAY more -EV for them than it's for us (Players)
So stop blaming WPN for this and be realistic.

Sorry for my English. (Second language in a third world country) and for a LOOOOng letter.
I hope this post can help some of you guys to chill a bit.
Cheers.

Thanks!! I really appreciate the explanation!! Your English is great.

04-17-2017 , 12:41 AM

#6858

vortex91

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ownit

There is $234,511. that has not been paid out yet, 18,400,000 chips remain in play.

That means about .127 cents per chip? So 100,000 chips is a measly $1270?

Did I figure that right?

Yes

04-17-2017 , 12:42 AM

#6859

dag21

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ownit

Can one of you smart guys figure the chop?

Prize pool $276,480 - total entries 3456 and 184 remain.

I have just over 100,000 chips.

If they calculate the same way I do, your equity with 100k stack should be about $5k.

04-17-2017 , 12:42 AM

#6860

Jules22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,156

I saw some random cash running let's hope tournament gets going

04-17-2017 , 12:43 AM

#6861

Jules22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,156

Message says restart in 8 minutes

04-17-2017 , 12:43 AM

#6862

MLSFTW

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules22

Message says restart in 8 minutes

Yep- restart at 50 past whatever hour it is where you are.

04-17-2017 , 12:44 AM

#6863

MrSoloDolo17

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 176

You literally can't restart this ****ing tournament after I get timed out in midst of huge 3bet pot and come back to 60k+ less chips than I had. ****ing unreal this piece of **** site.

04-17-2017 , 12:44 AM

#6864

chrisp200

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 602

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohsen

Why do bigger sites like PokerStars almost never seem to have this issue?

04-17-2017 , 12:45 AM

#6865

vortex91

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp200

there's almost zero chance they will finish these tournaments off at this point.

Your nut flush just got cracked

04-17-2017 , 12:51 AM

#6866

ChanceH

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 639

back on ... in case you weren't aware... glgl everyone

04-17-2017 , 12:53 AM

#6867

WEC

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,473

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp200

Why do bigger sites like PokerStars almost never seem to have this issue?

They have many times....ie

PokerStars DDoS Attackers Arrested by Europol, Extortion Group Also Alleged to Have Targeted Betfair, Neteller
January 29th, 2016

04-17-2017 , 12:54 AM

#6868

MrSoloDolo17

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 176

So I get timed out because of WPN **** ISP in middle of a 3b pot in 200k and come back to -60k chips and no HH and now we are resuming? Wtf is this piece of **** site?

04-17-2017 , 12:57 AM

#6869

vortex91

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSoloDolo17

So I get timed out because of WPN **** ISP in middle of a 3b pot in 200k and come back to -60k chips and no HH and now we are resuming? Wtf is this piece of **** site?

When a network or site goes down due to ddos or internet problems the active hands are normally lost... this is not specific to WPN, which is a network not a site...

I'm not sure if the perpetrators of these ddos's are actually capable of initiating them within the timeframe of one hand and thus benefiting themselves or not though, but i presume they are not going through all this effort just for fun...

04-17-2017 , 01:02 AM

#6870

Jules22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,156

Good luck all let's hope we run good on dos too lol

04-17-2017 , 01:41 AM

#6871

Gags30

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,428

wtf they restarted tournaments? i even got a message saying my tournament was 'cancelled by host'..now i come back to see that i blinded out! this is absurd

04-17-2017 , 01:43 AM

#6872

MrSoloDolo17

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gags30

wtf they restarted tournaments? i even got a message saying my tournament was 'cancelled by host'..now i come back to see that i blinded out! this is absurd

A complete cluster**** man. This is not okay. I'm so tilted right now.

04-17-2017 , 02:02 AM

#6873

MLSFTW

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gags30

wtf they restarted tournaments? i even got a message saying my tournament was 'cancelled by host'..now i come back to see that i blinded out! this is absurd

I think you saw "suspended by host." That does not mean that is is canceled.

04-17-2017 , 02:39 AM

#6874

Jules22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,156

Busted out in the 70s KK vs AK Aipf ace on turn.... that's gonna sting for a while

04-17-2017 , 04:01 AM

#6875

yellowfever

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,026

Love how the support just emails u back a automated message about tourneys are starting up when im trying to get a refund for the sngs their software screwed me out of.

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