AHHHHH

Here we go again

the lag is getting pretty bad

I'm out. Would somebody mind posting when the server problems seem to have ended. Thanks.

You guys have 2 weeks before the 1 mil grtd to get this right. This is going to be a huge make or break reputation moment to non regulars of WPN.

Go It's all upside.

If the milly goes smoothly, WPN's reputation improves.

If not, it keeps its current reputation.

This is true, it appears they're much more quickly resolving the lag issues now as things seem smooth at the very moment. Maybe they did get some DDOS protection but it takes them a minute to stop the attack.

****ing WPN

im mad mike

be thankful that u guys dont have 20 tables when this **** happens my god
****ing burning holes in my pockets
**** u wpn

soooo thankful i don't have the bankroll or hand eye coordination or aptitude to play 20 tables... im such a lucky guy

What don't you get about the issue?

You guys keep saying "**** this site." It's apathetic Americans, who vote corrupt politicians into office, that you should be cursing.

If you want to log on from Sweden then get off your lazy ass and contact Swedish authorities and tell them to do something about your fellow Swedish DDOS attacking countrymen.

The burden falls on players who live in the countries where the DDOS attackers are located at this point. It's your responsibility to get the issue handled. If this were an American DDOS attacker I would contact American authorities to deal with the issue.

What's the phone number for that in America?

FBI.

So if I ever suspect someone in the USA is DDOSing a poker site in Costa Rica based on what I read on 2p2, I should call the FBI? Cool.

First of all p2 dog, that's terrible, and even though it has been happening repeatedly for months and even years for some players, we need to resist getting numbed to accepting losing money to WPN's technology failures as maddening but basically accepted. To a certain extent I feel like those of us who have persisted in playing with WPN through all of these outages and disrupted sessions knowingly choose to use a faulty service (fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...), BUT that doesn't absolve WPN from responsibility for the failures of their service and resulting losses that occur through no fault of the player.

So p2 dog (or anyone else), have you ever written down the hand numbers that you were in at the time the disconnect and contacted support for a review of what was happening and requested a reimbursement for those hands? I have read others' comments in this forum about feeling blown off when calling to complain, but before you laugh at me for suggesting this, I have done it on several occasions for SNG tourneys that have been in when the disruptions have occured. I was disconnected at some stage in the tournament and by the time I was able to get back to the table I was totally crippled by losses to the blinds or the tournament had ended entirely. In each case I wrote down the tournament numbers and the time when I lost connection. And to WPN's credit I was either refunded back the buyin and fee, given an ICM estimate of the payout according to my relative chip stack or credited with tourney bucks. It's a hassle and I've not been happy each time, but I was clear about what happened and told the rep what I expected.

I have only very recently started playing cash again and so I have not had to do this with any hands at those tables and am wondering whether anyone else has tried with documented information about where you were when you were disconnected. Any feedback would be welcome.

I don't think WPN is "suspecting" anything by banning Swedish players, you dummy. If we KNOW the location of the attacker then it's time to get the authorities involved.

If the location of the perpetrator is in USA then the FBI is fully within their power to do something against a DDOS attacker in the USA. As it's not just the site in Costa Rica that's the victim as you're falsely claiming. It's thousands of American players collectively losing millions of dollars, as well. That makes them victims and puts the responsibility of enforcing the laws in their hands.

The same way Swedish authorities have jurisdiction over a Swedish DDOS attacker.

With whom are you arguing?

I didn't say WPN was "suspecting" anything. Just wanted to know who to contact if I suspected that a DDOS attack from my country was ever the reason why my IP was blocked by an online poker site in another county.

Did not ever claim this.

Since there seem to be some misunderstandings, let's make sure I understand your position correctly. There's a player from Sweden who says WPN is preventing him from accessing its site. Your advice to him is to get off his lazy ass and contact Swedish authorities to tell them to do something about the DDOS attacks that seem to be originating from Sweden.

Is that true?

How do you know that player hasn't already reported this to Swedish authorities?

What kind of results are you anticipating when the player contacts Swedish authorities to report that a poker site in Costa Rica appears to have blocked his IP due to DDOS attacks originating in Sweden?

Well, a DDOS attacker in Sweden currently faces no consequences for his actions. If this person understands that Swedish law enforcement authorities are investigating the issue it could deter this person from continuing with the attacks.

Just as an American DDOS attacker would be deterred by the fact that the FBI is looking for him.

You clearly don't understand the nature of a DDOS attack. A DDOS attack is performed using infected computers that's owned by people who are not aware that they are participating.

And all of those infected computers send a lot of dummy data to flood the target server so normal and valid data rarely get through.

The only way to beat a DDOS is to have more bandwidth then the attacker.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

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Not true, there are other methods of protection some of which are described in the link you provided.

I also don't see how his statement does not understand the nature of a DDOS attack. Although the attack is a result of a # of infected "bot" computers the attack is "initiated" or "commanded" by an individual who can be held accountable.

All of the defenses require more bandwidth then the attacker, either by having a service or an ISP filter out the bad traffic, the only time you don't need more bandwidth is when the attacker is performing a DoS attack that is causing the server to overload it's CPU.

An individual controlling a bot-net rarely controls it directly but tunnels his traffic through TOR or I2P to hide the origin of the traffic and to protect his own identity. So to find an individual behind TOR or I2P is very difficult. It took FBI 4 Years to take down Silk Road.

rate limiting incoming ICMP packets defends the majority of DDOS attacks.

There is software available to net admins that can locate any DDOS attack on any port and locate the target IP and the source IP (if heavily incoming on one IP...) in case the attack does come via another port.

It is not hard to defend DDOS attacks if you act accordingly.

If it's so ****ing easy then why haven't WPN fixed it yet?

Do you really believe that some high school script kiddie would fix the DDOS problems in 10 minutes?

My best guess would be because the proper network protection for seemless defense is extremely costly.

things were great today WPN, thank you. i dont think i went on a cussing rampage once