Lmao zek wp. Now the serious question i ask is how people get staked that dont realise how make up profit works

Name: Christopher Payne
Location: New Jersey, USA
Email: cpayne1215@gmail.com
Skype: chris.payne1215
References: Steve White
Screen Names: DaBirds23, Paynekilla, Paink1ller, Chinacat23

Chris hit a couple tournament cashes for a few thousand USD, then stopped updating his reporting spreadsheet and went totally MIA and wouldn't respond to any of our communication. A month later we finally heard back from him and he claims to have busted his bankroll. His reference, who originally gave him a good reference, told us after the fact that Chris is prone to this type of behavior.

LOL

Yeah, sounds like that's probably the case. Given that you agree with them that nothing is not what you owe, what do you owe them, and when do you plan on paying it?

Hey,

So I need to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else and I spoke to this guy's parole agent who asked me to spread the word. This user plays under the SNs above and his real name I can tell you. You can google him and the first thing that pops up is his criminal profile. He approached me on ACR and I foolishly gave him my email. I was doing well in tourney and had just started playing online MTTs and being the con-artist that he is, he knew this and convinced me that he was qualified to coach me. However his only intention was to empty my BR. I wont go into a long story here but want to make sure he doesnt screw anyone else over. I transferred over $500 to the guy before I figured out he was a fraud and had recently been released from prison for fraud. Do not let him convince you otherwise. Thankfully I can handle a $500 loss but I know there are many young guys out there playing online and $500 is a lot of money to them. If you have encountered this conman feel free to PM me. If u have questions let me know. Just make sure not to believe him when he says he is qualified to teach you poker or if he wants to borrow money. He is a broke felon on parole and will say and do anything to steal from you. I learned the hard way but I want to make sure he never rips anyone else off through online poker.

Take care.

Sorry that happened to you mate. This is a life lesson that happens to a lot of people. Lucky for you though this has happened now as opposed to in your retiring years.

Here are a few nuggets of wisdom for everyone working hard to achieve something:

1) If you have been successful in doing something, there will always be people that will try to siphon from your success. It is important that you do research and really find the "value" in someone's service before investing. This research needs to be conducted by you or someone you trust. If the research was presented to you by the party in question... you never know of its authenticity.

2) No one, will work as hard as you to achieve your own success. Don't expect anyone to just take you to the next level. There is no magic button or get rich quick model. It doesn't exist. You can get lucky, but reality is you have to put in the work.

3) Try to associate yourself with people that are going and have gone to where you want to be.

4) Next time you think about giving $500 to someone to take you to the next level, donate $400 of that money to a charity instead and spend the $100 on a few books.

Name: Elisabeth Wallman
Skype: live:ipholder
Email: ipholder@outlook.com
Pokerstars screen name: iPholder™
Location: Sweden

Elizabeth has just disappeared. Hasn't played in a month, with no warning and hasn't responded on Skype in 2 weeks.

Owes $400 (last cashier screenshot) plus makeup = $1.4k

Name: Aifos Ivan Wagner Parro
Stars: Lol_You-Ha
888: awp00
Party: Lol_You-Ha
Stars.fr: BuKoooWskiii

We elected to part ways. We asked for 0 makeup and simply for him to send us the Pocarr cash he held. He refuses to send.

Full name:Onorino Montesano

Pokerstars name: M4mbaNegrA

Skype: rino.montesano

Emails: rinomontesano@hotmail.com comemelaoreja.1@hotmai.com

2+2 profile: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/318140/






Nightmare to deal with, breaks the rules all the time and keeps cashing out my funds when asked not to. Recently has been dumping money to get the stake dropped because he is in so much make up.

Make up that has come from him chopping/being lazy and playing terrible. Has had so much support via me and my coaches and some of my players. All agree he is a nightmare to work with and a lost cause. Someone who helps me when I am traveling said he has been a nightmare on skype recently and can't believe I have put up with him for so along.

AVOID!

Name: Mirel Joaca Bine
Stars: masterskip87

We started the stake, sent him his starting bankroll and he did not play for 2 weeks nor message us at any point. We asked what was going on and he said he was out of the country (gave us no warning). We asked him to return the bankroll as we were uncomfortable continuing. He has not returned this after 2 months.

Don't worry, Gary, you'll have your money back! It's just that, playing $2.50s SNGs to recover a $4900 makeup, after 6-8 months without cashouts would be real hard.

I still believe that, when I posted multiple times on the rail group on Skype that I was in some final tables of tournaments that I was not supposed to be playing, you should reprimand me. But apparently that only became a problem when I was not winning anymore.

About that last "blast" it was actually $340, not $600. Not that it matters, or make it less of a mistake by me, but, if you are going to expose that, please use the correct amounts.

About my social anxiety I always left clear that I prefer to do written reviews, and/or watch videos and stuff. In addition to that I don't speak english very well. We never got into a call with each other, we always solved things via chat. That's why it worked for some time.

And no, I don't own a $2000 fridge, my point was that I had $0 at the time, and if I had to pay you right away I would have to sell stuff from home... Which was what I did to get me on the game again. Sold one of my monitors and deposited $130 on Stars to get me playing again. And that's why you didn't receive your $2450 yet! It's been a struggle. And you exposing me like that just made it a little bit harder. But that's fine.

I'm a nice guy, man, my heart is on the right place. Hope I'm able to pay you back as soon as possible. And hopefully you learn something from this too, as how to run your stable and treat your players as human beings.

Peace,

Ivan

hey there!

just posting because me and a friend got scammed by one of our stakees. he was living from the role we gave him for more than 2 years not mentioning anything about that. what a shame we didn't find it out earlier but we trusted that guy. the scam amount is about 70k$.

stars nick: ihavenoclue1
other sites: demonized1, ihavenoclue1, ihavenoclue123

real name: konrad rheye

he says that he is willing to pay us the money back but i can only believe that if he realy starts giving some back... i hope it is going to take a good end. i will update if there are some news.

Hello,

My dealings with Thomas Scholze and Moritz Dietrich

My Poker Journey started 2,5 years ago when i was a student playing 2$ SNG,and got ask by thomas to join a new projekt where they are looking for relativ new players to invest/coach. We established a staking deal where i would initially play for 3000 Games and then it would be cut. So the months went by i got coached and made some profit at some point we were 80k$ in plus since i was relying on this money because i had no income, quit my study and went full-time playing. i dont remember the exact conversation since its 2 years ago and i cant look up the chat since skype doesnt save them. we couldnt get the money because it was on fr sites mainly(bankcashout taxproblem). i was aware that we said that i just take money of the stars roll if i have no ohter choice since i have to eat/pay rent somehow(i was mainly playing 6 day a week). the next 2 year we i worked really hard we did coachings but the variance wasnt on our side and we went down again(playing highstakes). i always though that my stakers are aware that i am taking some money to live, since i cant live from nothing for 2,5years. also i justified it to myself because we initally said 3k games and then we cut it since an investment has a chance of failed so this way we were gonna look at the numbers when we grinded it out(freeroll) i was never gonna get money behind the backs, at some point we were always gonna divide it down and then cut it. sadly i didnt write down all of my transfers since the begining i didnt know back then as a student realativley new to poker. so i was always transfering money from poker site to poker when i needed some and i never really knew whats going on. i went to vegas in 2016 that alone probaly cost 10k$ but it was an investment for the staking. a few weeks back thomas messaged me that alot of money is missing, and i told them my point of view. they totally didnt understand or remember (organisation was always lacking) and had no empathy at all for the situation, moritz started to not respond at all. now they wanted me to get all the numbers from the beginning. which i did, but we dont really have a right number yet i need to write everything out skrill/all internet sites. they just settled with the number 70k$ for now, which i doubt is right, but i will get the right numbers when i am at home. i am sure alot of live transfers i remember havent even been considert yet, alot of not written down transfers where i gave live money back. i also bought ipads for 1k+ which havent been considered yet. so there is still alot to figure out i guess the number will be around 40-50k for the 2,5 years (inital cut). overall i told them that iwas very sorry and never had the intention to steal behind there back, i always though they are aware of it(2,5years quite some money?) and in the end we were always gonna get the sums right. i just wanted to grind it out for them and me. i also gave them all details of all accounts i have to login and fully cooperated, i also told them that iwas 100% gonna repay the money i owe them + my part of the mark up. i and alot ohters think to use the term scamm is way to much for this incident. i am working on getting them there money, its a very bad situation to grind for 2,5 years in the end playing 8 bb/ev, but i will deal with it and they will get their money. sadly they showed no empathy for the missunderstandings with the inital cut, the freerolling me and me just wanting to make the project succesfull. i never wanted to cause anyone problems and will pay the money back. i am sorry. Sure its easy to start a project and make some $$$ by freerolling, in the end i didnt know that i might possibly need spare money for 2,5 years. Somehow a stakee has to live somehow.. still i am sorry for the problems and i will fully repay.

konrad

What a freaking mess!

How nobody ever thought about keeping records of all the finances/transfers/trades... is mindblowing.

Both parties are at fault, but I'd say that it's the backers' their own wrongdoing (or nothingdoing) that caused this whole situation.

How can you have a horse play for you for over 2y and not have done one single audit LOL

And you thought Konrad was living off of thin air since he was grinding full-time for you guys?

If no rules & regulations have been set, then how can someone be at fault for not following a non-existent protocol?

Konrad seems willing to find the right number owed and work on oaying you guys back, co-operation will speed things up.

Should also consult an established Staking Group to learn how you follow up on your stakees.

Real Name: Kory Howard
Party/888/Carbon screen name: KoryHoward
Stars screen name: Royalkid7575
Black Chip Screen name: KHowardBluffer
2+2 name: Royalkid7575

Partially staked him around a year and a half ago despite him having issues with previous backers. Gave him multiple personal loans to help out with his expenses. After having to pause the stake with him as he could not continue playing poker under stake without taking personal loans, I told him he needed to find a job and gave him a small loan to give him some time to do so. 2 weeks later he was playing under stake from someone else without my knowledge and did not find a job until four months later. A few months ago after I was able to get into contact with him after messaging someone he knew after I couldn't get in contact with him for months at the start of the year. I asked for a payment plan back from the loans and was ignored in our brief conversations. Around a month ago he blocked me from all social media, which tells me he has no plans to pay back his debts, very scummy individual. I later found out he owes 2 other previous backers a combined 5 figure amount and has avoided all contact with them and has not paid anything back.

Kory owes $2,800 in loans. The makeup amount, which there is close to a 0% chance I'll have the opportunity to recoup when the stake was paused was $3k. Avoid any financial dealings with Kory!

just to say hes still playing played with him on sunday past gone (not sure if hes on hide tho) thought id let you know as hes either backed again or own diming which i doubt

Name: Ronnie Juan dos Santos Perin
Stars: affronnie
Party: ronnieperin
888: ronnielperin

Ronnie played $326 worth of buy-ins in games he was not permitted to play. This is 73 buy-ins worth of games.

Name: Luis Carlos Ruiz Romero
Stars: carl 010

Was not putting in the study or volume we agreed upon. We decided to part ways and asked him to send us the Pocarr cash he held. He has not sent this. It has been 1 week.

Name: Christian Fabian Garcia Caro
Stars: cháchan
Searchable: chachan
Party: chachan_
888: chachizon

Withdrawing funds for personal use. We asked for an audit and he sent as if nothing was wrong. After we went through it he confirmed he had been withdrawing.

LMAO. is that his real name? that's 100% a romanian name. the translation is "mirel plays well" or "mirel plays good". are you sure that he didn't gave you a fake name...

Pokerstars Screenname: R00Kn’daVET (formerly oxyfean)
WPN Screename: YeezyTotMe
Partypoker: YeezyTotMe
888: lolstr8flush
Country: Canada

We started working with R00Kn’daVET in December 2016.

He went on vacation in June 2017 and upon returning informed us that he'd be moving to South Africa to take advantage of a full-time job offer and that his volume would be dropping significantly.

We informed him that his limits would also be reduced.

He decided that instead he'll be quitting poker.

We're posting this as a warning and future reference for backers in the future.

He quit with ~$7k in makeup.

We have an ID and Stars cashier screenshot with that name on both.

Name: Jesus Arbey Portilla Delgado
Stars: The Nuttttts
2p2: ArbeyPortilla
888: U3BetMe_L0L
Party: U3BetMeL0L

Arbey stole $3,400 from us saying that a family member was sick. This is what everyone says.

We decided to give him a 2nd chance (June 3rd), moved him down in stakes, and he agreed to 500 normal speed MTTs per month and 10 quality study items per month in a document we provided. In exchange we would keep backing him AND provide a $300 loan per month.

Today we noticed the following:
-1 study item for July
-On pace for 372 normal speed MTTs in July
-Did not update financial rail after last playing session (a requirement)

The spirit of our second chance was for him to work hard and earn back our trust. To consistently study and work to get better, consistently put in volume, earn back our trust, and take a $300 monthly loan to sustain living while paying off makeup.

The spirit of this second chance was NOT for Arbey to mass-table the end of the month to hit our volume goal nor to rush at the end of the month to get 10 quality study items. We've preached these things for years with him so he knows this.

Missing these things would not typically have us choose to part ways, but after stealing $3,400 and getting loans, we expect a sincere effort to complete what we've asked. This is just not okay with us.

We have chosen to part ways with Arbey and have asked for $5,000 to be repaid. This is the $3,400 he stole, $300 loan he took last month, and a fraction of all previous small loans given over the past 2 years.

Ronnie sent us this $326 back.

We had a scammer apply impersonating a Romanian Player. The below information is the information he provided. There are no poker account names attached, as they were not compromised.

Provided Real name: Bogdan Popescu
Email / Skrill: bogdan1984popescu@gmail.com
Skype: live:bogdan1984popescu
Country: Romania
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/popescu.bogdan.12
ID: https://www.screencast.com/t/uAErp8rIanI2
Photo + ID: https://www.screencast.com/t/NZD3OeAeRB
PhotoShopped Screenshot of PS Cashier: https://www.screencast.com/t/yGjL3G1AqOQ
phone: +40728561577