What about solve a riddle?

well that is the basics of it, of course it is built to be dynamic.

My guess based on client files: Show us you are a real player by clicking on the white (or black) circle!

played a hand vs Ten5pirit and some unknown in the $22 4k 6 max the other day. I opened MP with KQ SB flats and ten5pirit flats BB with T8o. Flop was J55dd checks to me I cbet both call, brick turn and checks around J river so final board is J55XJ, SB jams 2x pot and Ten5pirit snaps it off. Like what?

Those exactly the hands that i'm talking about.
a human won't play like this EVER.

I'm sure, absolutely sure about the Czech Players that i mentioned at my first post, that they are bots.
Believe me, i now how to recognize a bot after playing over 30k MTT's in my career. I played with some on PS, then on 888, all of them are now banned after a small investigation by a pokerroom.

I'm going to try and find more hands like this one.

On Stars, it's a normal thing during a session to see a captcha that says to fill some numbers or words, doesn't matter. It pops up on every table so it's impossible to miss it, and you have 60 seconds or so to fill it.
One of the first steps that a secure site should do i guess.

Re-evaluate your thinking and avoid absolutes like "EVER". Avoid, with great determination, to NEVER conclude anything based on a single hand.

I agree with you about the "EVER", my mistake.
But it based not on a single hand, believe me, i'm not that stupid to do so by one or even 5 moves.

Cheers, and congrats on your attitude not to overreact to constructive criticism. Refreshing to see


Captcha sounds more robust than white/black circles, especially when the message text and images are trivially found in the client folders. I should say that I've never witnessed an actual test, so there could possibly be more to it than I am presuming. Then there's the issue of human monitors, for which even captcha tests are insufficient.

I was surprised to hear CEO claim Jackpots (and presumably SNG 2.0) are not susceptible to botting. It's great news if true, but I worry the thinking is that bots rely on hand histories being generated during game play. Not all bots require live hand histories.

strongly disagree, they would obv catch someone who didnt know about the test. Even I,,,, as a human was like wtf is this.. you say it like it is "easy to exploit bot checkers" like if i wasnt a human, I would have not clicked and my account would be bot worthy. so actually, it is a very good bot test... or I mean dont know what op is insuating??? if saying bot testing on acr is not good, you are wrong. never seen anything like that in my life and i was semi scared cuz like, never seen anything like that, and thought it was some sort of other hacker that had nothing to do with poker whatsoever. Like a scammer.

Huh?

My point is this scenario:

1. A botter's account got banned because it got bot-checked and didn't answer the question correctly, the person behind the account would now know why and that a certain security check exists.

2. Modify bot to read the captcha or the correct hand that pops up.

3. Make new accounts with updated bot. Rinse and repeat.

I was merely suggesting that current security to screen bots would not be difficult to program against and other modes of defense wouldn't hurt. If the current security check is dynamic enough then that's what we're running with, it is what it is.

I have never played with any of the players listed in the OP as I rarely play MTT's, but I just want to point out that CZ players were banned from pretty much all networks last year due to local regulations.

Only PS have a license afaik, so this could be the reason why many CZ players are playing on ACR and are banned from other sites (unless you specifically know that they got banned for botting).

my point in this scenario


1. 12 handed 3 away from the final table! bot to my left. OH NO!! playing someone who has no emotions, hes just playing his cards and doesnt care about the money... doubt he is gonna try and exploit final table bubble.

2. 6 handed, bot to my right, dude is raising 20% of hands, and folding to 3 bets 60% of the time and only 4 betting 3 bets 2% of the time, SHUCKS!!

3. 3 handed, bot out in 6th because he had no clue or reads on player, but made a once in a lifetime phenomenal in a tourney!

i am merely suggesting that bots are not cleaning up in mtts... they are adding to the prize pool

Dude, you obviously missed the whole point of my original post. No where did I ever mention anything about bot's play-ability, now you're just rambling about a separate topic in left field by yourself.

Have a good day.

I know that, i was talking about particular case of ban for botting.

So OP posted his suspicions, which few people that play MTT's seem to share. Why thread still up?

There seems to be zero evidence to me. OP filtered some stats over an unspecified number of hands (out on a long limb here but that's most likely because it's not a big sample) and also screenshot some hands that don't really seem to prove anything either.

This is usual in "I have zero proof, but I found ****ing bots" thread. Post your suspicions and then every post after that you can act like that's fact. Some Alex Jones still stuff ITT, just saying.

Don't worry, I have found bots about half a year ago and they aren't around anymore, altough this Maybe_memories smartboy (not) told me that I'm stupid and should be in the first line of war so I go in heaven among the first. I also "had zero proof" but the network found them anyways.
#smartassesgonnasmartass

I find it really hard to believe that you "found" bots and that they were legit bots that were banned for being bots. Probably didn't happen. If it did, the 10 or so Alex Jones-esque "there's bots everywhere" posters on here would have thrown you a ****ing parade.'

I don't know who you got me mixed up with or what you've convinced yourself that I said to you on here. But I'm an atheist. I would never say anybody was going to heaven, because it doesn't exist. Now maybe a George Carlin type idea where we pick a worthless state and just fence in folks like you. That sounds like something I would say.

Can you or OP state your proof here please? Since you think you have some, I would like to see it. Maybe you can change my mind....

I wrote "heaven" on purpose, because your words weren't exactly nice. I mean you're not nice at all. I won't write again, because I won: they aren't around anymore. What more proof do I need?
#VICTORY

Saying something doesn't make it true, Mr. Drumpf. Its not "proof" just because some SN's you thought were bots aren't playing anymore (if that is even a real thing). Players could have simply switched skins or just stopped playing on WPN. And since I've yet to see a "BOT" thread with any sort of credible evidence or even so much as legit effort being put into evidence by the OP's of these threads, I'm going to bet that its one of those 2 things.

I haven't been mean to you at all. But I can def start. I think you'd be doing the forum a great service by never posting again. But lets be honest, we both know that's not going to happen.

my point was, these bots are fine for the player pool if bots. I wish whoever was making those bots (sn's listed) would make a ton more... as tony g once said "bring the russians on"

Bots are not fine because most people do not like playing with bots. If poker sites want to diminish traffic then by all means let the bots play, but otherwise it isn't a smart move to allow them to play.

Its very hard for the network to get rid of the bots. This are very smart people who are way ahead of sites security teams. That said, the CZ guys you can shoot and then ask. They are bots for sure, and when I say for sure is 100% sure.

Just ban the Czech republic. I'm sure the deposits coming in from that country are absurdly low anyways. Its all bots and regs.

Might as well ban Russia and all of Eastern Europe while your at it.

Sounds right... see my previous post