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Old 06-29-2017, 06:43 PM   #76
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Re: Bots nl50-200

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Hmmmm. See above post. This is only one of a least three posts in this thread of Winning_TD's crap about who is going to be on the long term positive end of humans versus bots. How does he still have a position representing WPN?
My position is not representing wpn

My position is tournament director.

The real question should be. Why do i bother responding to witch hunts
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Old 06-29-2017, 06:52 PM   #77
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Also i am sure i have come up against bots on a number of times on numerous sites. Pretty sure taking money from them was easier than any good player. Just saying
He really wrote this in Post #48. Wow just wow. This ain't a witch hunt comment, this is you saying bots are easier than humans. And historical data on 2+2 in bot thread after bot thread proves you WRONG with the bots up insane amounts of money.

Oh yeah, as I've stated I mainly used a past study case and from a different site I have never bashed WPN. The Pokerstars PLO bot ring at PLO 100 had 7 out of the top 10 winners at PLO 100 being bots. The sums of money the bots won in this case topped over $1.5 million.

You are a clown and disqualified to talk about the topic of bots and this above post by you proves it.

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Old 06-29-2017, 07:18 PM   #78
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Sorry didnt realise i was speaking to such experts on the case.

The funny thing is you say im disqualified. The funny part is i can disqualify you from here just for you to go and make another new account and start again.

If you havent realised by now, for me this is fun and i actually like the comments i receive from you. Why dont you send me a PM and let me know who you think is a bot and many times i have said, i will happily bot test them when they are online.

The worst thing that comes from suspected bots is the threads and people that come along with it.

If a bot is calling me down with bottom pair i would bumhunt him everyday. $$$$
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:27 PM   #79
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You would have been better "qualified" to tell everyone in this thread you will pass along suspected bots to security, instead of make the multiple posts in this where you directly or indirectly said that beating bots was FREE MONEY (your actual words from this thread from Post #55.)

The worst thing that comes from suspected bot threads is "reps" from a poker site talking out their ass.

"At Winning Poker Network, integrity of the game is priority one." This is WPN's mission statement, I just copied and pasted from the web page. Nothing you have said or done in this thread matches that.

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Old 06-29-2017, 07:33 PM   #80
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Re: Bots nl50-200

lol td getting tilted
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:43 PM   #81
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I do get tilted but actually in a good way. Sometimes i do wonder where these comments come from.

If you look at other posts and yes im not going to look back. I did say as much as i joke we do send it to security or i check myself.

You know what happens when i say i pass along. If they get investigated and are not bots, you will see them playing and say we have done nothing. The proof of this is in many many threads.

Your probably trying to argue against the wrong person here. As you only have a few posts your probably "new" to the forum so you wouldnt have seen other the past 4 years just about everything i do to help players when they have issues or bring issues to me. You also dont see the amount of pms i get from players with suspected names of collusion, bots or what not and things get dealt with straight away.

You dont need to be the hero when it comes to integrity of the site and start a thread so the wild goose chase begins. #donthatetheplayer
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:51 PM   #82
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You would have been better "qualified" to tell everyone in this thread you will pass along suspected bots to security, instead of make the multiple posts in this where you directly or indirectly said that beating bots was FREE MONEY (your actual words from this thread from Post #55.)

The worst thing that comes from suspected bot threads is "reps" from a poker site talking out their ass.

"At Winning Poker Network, integrity of the game is priority one." This is WPN's mission statement, I just copied and pasted from the web page. Nothing you have said or done in this thread matches that.
You know what I never have understood is why. Why would you continue to play on a site you feel is full of bots that takes tons of money from real players? I don't know how many bots are on the network and I agree they shouldn't be playing but the rep is correct in saying playing against a bot is easier than playing against a good player.

Your lack of understanding of poker is what really is getting you so upset. You have spent to much time reducing the game to just numbers, just like a bot. But the game is so much deeper than that. It is not only numbers but human emotions that make the game interesting. I am almost willing to bet you have played poker at a casino only a handful of times.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:00 PM   #83
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Winning_TD and Chopsy trying to talk about join date. Okay, I'll post with my main account in next post as Ladybruin. Be right back.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:04 PM   #84
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This is wolfbook on my main account. Check the isp track to see coming from say place as wolf posts a moment ago. A join date of 2008 little boys Winning _TD and Chopsy. I pre-date both of you by yearssssss. Ha.

Check my post which you will see come from places like the Las Vegas thread. I have lived in Atlantic City for over 10 years. I moved to Las Vegas and have live there for over 10 years. I have bben a professional blackjack card counter and a professional poker player. You guys just got spaked on your attempts to change the topic of bots and on to me. come see me in 15+ years and you'll have the the exerpience I have now over both of you. I was hanging out playing the original Stud games at the Trop in AC with Phil Ivey as "No Home Jerome" before he was old enough to legally go in casino. And Allen "Chainsaw" Kessler was in game and we also played video Poker at our new President's Trump Plaza and Taj Mahal.

But hey try and go off topic again TD or Chopsy, you certainly don't want to talk about bots in a bot thread. Hmmm. Like someone else posted in here Chopsy is borderline suspected of being a bot runner trying to de-rail thread.

worth repeating 2008 join date !

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Old 06-29-2017, 08:06 PM   #85
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You know what I never have understood is why. Why would you continue to play on a site you feel is full of bots that takes tons of money from real players? I don't know how many bots are on the network and I agree they shouldn't be playing but the rep is correct in saying playing against a bot is easier than playing against a good player.

Your lack of understanding of poker is what really is getting you so upset. You have spent to much time reducing the game to just numbers, just like a bot. But the game is so much deeper than that. It is not only numbers but human emotions that make the game interesting. I am almost willing to bet you have played poker at a casino only a handful of times.
IIRC, some PLO Bot rings (On other networks) had impressive winrates at midstakes, no?
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:09 PM   #86
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This is wolfbook on my main account. Check the isp track to see coming from say place as wolf posts a moment ago. A join date of 2008 little boys Winning _TD and Chopsy. I pre-date both of you by yearssssss. Ha.

Check my post which you will see come from places like the Las Vegas thread. I have lived in Atlantic City for over 10 years. I moved to Las Vegas and have live there for over 10 years. I have bben a professional blackjack card counter and a professional poker player. You guys just got spaked on your attempts to change the topic of bots and on to me. come see me in 15+ years and you'll have the the exerpience I have now over both of you.
Cool story!
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:14 PM   #87
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I am almost willing to bet you have played poker at a casino only a handful of times.
That is a bet you would lose by about 20 years ago.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:20 PM   #88
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IIRC, some PLO Bot rings (On other networks) had impressive winrates at midstakes, no?
^^^ Chopsy wanna reply or is avoid a better strategy for you?

Derp!, I think you Derped him.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:23 PM   #89
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You know what I never have understood is why. Why would you continue to play on a site you feel is full of bots that takes tons of money from real players? I don't know how many bots are on the network and I agree they shouldn't be playing but the rep is correct in saying playing against a bot is easier than playing against a good player.

Your lack of understanding of poker is what really is getting you so upset. You have spent to much time reducing the game to just numbers, just like a bot. But the game is so much deeper than that. It is not only numbers but human emotions that make the game interesting. I am almost willing to bet you have played poker at a casino only a handful of times.
You act like US players have tons of options online...
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:40 PM   #90
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^^^ Chopsy wanna reply or is avoid a better strategy for you?

Derp!, I think you Derped him.
It's so shortsighted of people to assume bots are not a problem, just because the ones they have encountered are/were bad. As if bots aren't getting better.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:55 PM   #91
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IIRC, some PLO Bot rings (On other networks) had impressive winrates at midstakes, no?
This still doesn't change the fact that I would rather play a bot than a really good human player.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:56 PM   #92
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Winning_TD and Chopsy trying to talk about join date. Okay, I'll post with my main account in next post as Ladybruin. Be right back.
Wasn't me that brought any join dates nephew.
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:59 PM   #93
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This still doesn't change the fact that I would rather play a bot than a really good human player.
Thank you for stating this publicly. This proves you are under-educated about the bot problem. The eye opener for most people in the Pokerstars PLO 100 bot ring was when everyone realized 7 of the top 10 winners at PLO 100 were bots. Your post makes you look dumb.

Oh yeah the other eye opener was that the bots won over $1.5 million (at PLO 100.)

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Old 06-29-2017, 09:02 PM   #94
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You act like US players have tons of options online...
If botting affects the games so much that it prevents real players from turning a profit those players still have options. They can go play live or stop playing all together. I look at it this way, I don't gamble at any other games period. And that is because I know long term I will lose. So if players feel like they can't win at a certain poker room yet still continue to play you know what that makes them? Losers.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:14 PM   #95
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Thank you for stating this publicly. This proves you are under-educated about the bot problem. The eye opener for most people in the Pokerstars PLO 100 bot ring was when everyone realized 7 of the top 10 winners at PLO 100 were bots. Your post makes you look dumb.

Oh yeah the other eye opener was that the bots won over $1.5 million (at PLO 100.)
So why do you continue to play on WPN? If you can't win then there is no point right?
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:15 PM   #96
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As a couple of people have pointed out, I'm starting to get the feeling that chopsy2 is a bot owner trying to derail this thread.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:32 PM   #97
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As a couple of people have pointed out, I'm starting to get the feeling that chopsy2 is a bot owner trying to derail this thread.
That's because you are an idiot. If you would read all of my points I am against bots but I am also against outing screens names because of the harm it can do to an innocent persons reputation if wrongly accused. I am also against cry babies who think the world owes them something. The solution is simple, if you don't like it don't play on WPN. If I don't like the service at a restaurant I don't go and eat there again and I never have that problem again.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:53 PM   #98
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As a couple of people have pointed out, I'm starting to get the feeling that chopsy2 is a bot owner trying to derail this thread.
I actually would like to use this poster as an example of the paranoia that lives within a lot of you losers. Dispite saying multiple times I don't support the use of bots, just because I might have a different view of the situation I get called a bot user and therefore a cheater. So maybe the real problem starts with some of you alleged people and your over active imagination that the reason you can't win is because the bots are stealing from you.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:03 PM   #99
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I was just refuting your generality with regards to bots' capabilities.

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Old 06-29-2017, 10:16 PM   #100
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I was just refuting your generally with regards to bots' capabilities.
That's fine, but I don't lose any sleep thinking I may have lost to a bot. I just go and play my game the best i can. If I think I have come across a bot I would make a report to WPN and leave it in their hands and be done with it.
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