tl;dr

yeah. we're all upset that the servers have had issues and everyone obv wanted to play this event. why don't we stop being so emotional and utilize some of that tilt control we're all supposed to have some level of as poker players. things happen and that's just life.


i wanted to create this thread to show a bit of appreciation. cancelling the tournament and refunding everyone's buy in was the absolute stone nuts. i'm one of the ones who busted before it cancelling (obviously not reentering with the issues they were experiencing) and received a the full 540 of which i was on some level arguably 'not entitled'

the only people who are pissed off are the people who had hchips. bfd you've never been stacked up huge af and bubbled something before? you swear like you were 1/8 or something and didn't get compensated. having like 1k people left in the field your equity is still kinda meh. also, many of you will deny this but most of you probably accumulated a substantial portion of those stacks by exploiting the fact that 7 of yoru table mates were disconnected. u show me some people who claim they time banked with 0% equity while waiting for their disconnected opponent to come back and not steal the pot-every single time- and i'll show you a pile of ****ing liars. personally i was only able to play something lke 5-6 hands per 15 minute level. obviously most of those involve folds and the rest of the time i'm sitting out and obviously posting dead blinds and antes for some people fortunate enough to be not disconnected to lay free claim to.

that's not poker. you didn't actually earn that stack. be a realist and have some integrity. just because in the short run u benefited from them being dc and weren't the one dc'd doesn't somehow change the situation. the rest of us were getting ****ed by folding AA vs a click in the bb.


the most important thing, imo, is how they've handled the situation thus far. obviously people are pissed off and probably everyone is requesting a substantial portion of their player balance in cash outs. they have handled this EXCEPTIONALLY WELL AND HAVE BEEN AMAZINGLY THOROUGH AND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. it's literally taken like one email for clarification to have money be shipped off both for me and a friend of mine. they're back up and running and i didn;t have a single disconnect yesterday (granted i only fired a few events later on in the day) they're adding tournaments (namely the 30r) and have done everything they can to help make the lobby better. personally i have a slightly harder time reading things now than i did before, but that's probably because i was familiar with the previous set up. and lol lets face it traffic is up the guarantees yesterday were bigger than i've seen them even on weekends and it was a f monday.


my friend is one of the ones who wanted to snap cash it all out. he requested the prepaid debit card info on sunday and received notification from fedex that the card shipped this morning and is already en route. last july it took me 4 weeks to receive my card. they just snap processed a cash out for me as well.



things like this really suck, but there is always good that comes from every bad situation. i think people need to stop being so childishly emotional (i admit i am guilty of that in the moment sometimes even if i'm able to compose myself shortly thereafter) and start to view things from the angle of how they're handling the situation. there's a lot of room for them to show how they'll handle and approach troubling situations and as far as i can tell they seriously still have the players interest in the forefront of their mind. they could always have just kept all the money said their servers went down rob everyone and ride off into the proverbial sunset. they've shown a complete polar opposite line of reasoning to me.

when BF came about, pokerstars was able to prove to everyone why they were the best by paying out the entire us player base without actually getting that money from the government (not to mention they paid for ftps balance as well) and everyone praised them for it. right now wpn is showing they're trying as hard as they can (i'm sure they're probably stressed out and working around the clock while we get to laxx out and complain to our friends about it while we go on living our lives anyways) to make things right and keep things running.


i've been to punta cana the last few years and panama and have gotten to know some of the staff that work at wpn and lps/lsop. i can genuinely say that i believe they care about the players on their network (most of them play poker on their own time as well as work for wpn) and are doing everything they can to grow their network, not print heaps off everyone then scam them and bounce. they have an ever growing support and affiliate program especially in the latin communities and countries, primarily central and south america, and attendance at the (admittedly few) stops i've been on has grown and things seem to be on the up n up. maybe complain when they fail to pay you out or something. until then lets focus on what we can learn from the past, how we as players can help them as the providers, and live forward into the future with that information and positive clear intention.






so yeah, to everyone at wpn and lps/lsop, i just wanna say thanks for doing everything you can to make things right. don't worry about the angry kids, they're just that and nothing more.



cheers, 420, 710 etc etc etc.

(clap)





-cliffs:

1) **** happens
2) stop trippin
3) they're trying as hard as they can to make things right
4) nobody's perfect.
5) these cliffs aren't very effective just read the f thing
6) thanks wpn
7) 420 710 lfg

#4 needs to be pobody's nerfect or post = fail.

Seriously though, I'll give this a proper read later tonight.

yep. the good news is games are running more than ever on wpn.. cashouts are fast

and traffic increasing more everyday

things are looking up.. just lil growin pains

weed is so cool, how many marijuanas do you smoke per day? I consume multiple per day myself.

confirmed too mad to consume the multiple marijuanas



keep telling yourself you weren't snap min betting vs dc'd players to accumulate whatever you had when it was cancelled tho

WPN is garbage. They have had issues for years. They killed their own site with the Beast. They have been saying we will change seeing cards at SD for at least a year. Their servers have sucked forever.

Traffic wouldn't have to "improve" If they didn't kill it th err tough dumb promotions,

All u guys bow to WPN bc they allow HUDS and rakeback. Same as ROW and PokerStars. U will allow a site to F you up the ass, just so long u can breakeven but win with rakeback.

ship: good post

It gets a little tiring listening to a few posters trying to think up new and sometimes creative angles of how they were wronged. It reminds me of the petty arguing that goes on in disfunctional families.

y umad tho?

fan boys gonna fan

If you had a top 10 stack when it got cancelled, you wouldn't be writing this post, you would be complaining

+1 on the post, sir. Takes a bit of insides to bare your soul so to speak for all to see. Of course it opens you up to pot shots from the trolls, but good on you for speaking your mind and not taking the ZOMG WPN SUX NEVR PLAYING HERE AGIN route.

This is a fair point, and +1 for not soiling it with irrelevant whining like others have.

Perhaps being top 10 at that point would be tilting enough to scream to the heavens. Being that close to as big a payday as most of us will get from the current state of online poker in the US, only to have it pulled away, is pretty ****ty for sure. But, it was the only play left considering the circumstances, and despite it not being what you may have received had it continued, you still got your $540 back.

You could have been KO'd 30 mins after the cancellation, too. You can't say for certain with that many people left that a cash was guaranteed, let alone a 'big money finish'.

Well said, ship.

Haters gonna hate

shills gonna shill :0 Due to circumstances beyond out control catchphrase for canceling million tournament is going to make me scoff at these types of shilly threads I am sorry. Please explain how providing a secure tournament like the millions is out of winnings control and maybe I will applaud them also. What circumstances about the millions tourney that was canceled was beyond the sites control?

So according to your awesome logic, threads complimenting the site are shilly and you will just dismiss them, but those ripping the site are just fine? Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders

everything ran smooth last night... tons of sng traffic $5s-$50s

No, people applauding site right after debacles like the millions for which the site had months to prepare for. I am still waiting for an explanation to the circumstances beyond the sites control that caused the cancellation.

Did you watch the CEO's video? He gave an explanation there.

I didn't see anyone give a standing ovation to WPN here. My points were simply regarding the spewtards who cluttered the discussion, and those who were whining like their puppy got stolen by the mail man.

So not being able to find a secure server location is beyond the sites control? I thought there might have been other factors to make circumstances out of our control statement that winning issued more plausible. This type of a thread is just ridiculous and self serving imo.

The displayed lack of maturity itt is, while obv predictable, pretty lol.

U didn't earn your top ten stack, idiot. You repeatedly stole pots off of people like me who were disconnected. Maybe you're angry because you know that's true and why nobody has refuted that point, only strengthening it.

Also, if u were any good, you wouldn't be worried about your next deep run or big pay day. Unless you never get there lolol.

If you had read even part of my post you'd know I'm applauding their actions post cancellation. lol at shill account with my join date and post count. Ps I play most of my volume on bovada while stateside.


Some of you are confirming your own immature idiocy, nice to know 2p2 never gonna change

@ship so because we don't agree with your inappropriate shill thread after a major debacle of epic proportions we are all immature idiots? The site says that due to circumstances beyond their control(not being able to provide a tournament on secure servers) the tournament had to be canceled and you write this thread thanking them for their incompetence. You're so mature.

games ran smooth last night

9mans $5s-$50s

if ur a 6man guy.. few $100s ran too

gl

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