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Is ACR worth it???? Is ACR worth it????

05-20-2015 , 08:07 PM
I have been playing 2 days a week mainly for tourneys on ACR. The nights I dont go to live casino to play. Today, I jump into 5 tourneys totaling around $100. They all suspend and half of them continue while suspended.

One of the tourneys was heads up for 8 hands until I shipped it with KT and losing to K4... As soon as the hand was over, the Villain went to full ring. The lobby showed 80 players.

I am still chatting with support. This has happened numerous times and always have gotten a refund.

Is it worth my time (your time) to continue to play on this site?
05-21-2015 , 01:31 AM
That's a very relative question but short answer for me is no. I won't elaborate as to why but feel free to pm me. I think it's worth the time and effort(effort being key word) for those that play high stakes and have very deep pockets enabling them to play the whole lobby of cash games or entire MTT sched aggressively re entering. Or for high volume pro ginders in countries with very low cost of living ROW players grinding beast or SNC (eastern euros etc). Hourly rate bots generate has been up for debate for a while.

There's 2 reasons I still read and post in this subforum, 1st being that I believe WPN has potential and would love to see it live up to anywhere near what i hear from them or believe is possible. 2nd is until they operate what i feel is a reasonable legit gaming site i feel its my responsibility as a community member to pass along facts and my experience.

No nowhere near my time to play there now but hopefully soon. But they do cashier stuff well, payouts also not just depo's thats the best thing I can say about WPN.

edit.. IMO it also requires borderline world class skill level to consistently make "living wages" or close to it by most standards in the US for anybody other than the HS players i described above. Hardest player pool online aniec

Last edited by big bwalz; 05-21-2015 at 01:38 AM.
05-21-2015 , 02:35 AM
The cash game pool is pretty solid. The PLO games are pretty soft at higher stakes. I see some potential there.

The tourneys $25-$100 are pretty soft as well. The unlimited re entry requires a much higher bankroll but makes the payoff a good enough reason to play.

As for options, I see Bovada as a waste of time. Anonymous players and max of 4 tables makes anything but nosebleed stakes not timeworthy.


The main reason I play tourneys online is to stay sharp. I play only 2 or 3 tourneys each month....
05-21-2015 , 03:58 AM
BV has a much softer player pool which can justify 4tbling smaller stakes.. WPN mtts are more like glorified high variance cash games due to the uber long re entries, player pool, playing style etc. If you only want to play 2-3 mtts/mo the r/a mtt'sare the best, turbs 2nd, everything else is trash, super large sample high variance, and the reg infested player pool all knows each other, same stables etc. The 100$+ mtts have little to no fish or randoms, ya there's more but based on your post stick to your PLO cash games you feel good about, MTTS are an illusion and STT's have issues, Jackpot STTS have incomplete hand histories that they say is due to lack of ability to fix, so read into that what you want.
05-21-2015 , 05:13 AM
I think all the mtts are soft as fk, the jackpot sngs are soft as fk. You get same day withdrawls which is insane. I don't know if people have actually figured out that theoretically you have to fire multiple bullets in reentries. but imo planning to just use 1 entry shouldn't affect your roi and each subsequent bullet can be treated as its own mtt. Or is it harder because all the "good" players are always going to be in the tournament 2-3 hours in. Either way it is definitely still worth it as long as their payouts are as fast as they are.
05-21-2015 , 04:48 PM
I think ACR personally Is a great site. But anyone else realize how much overlay they have with the MTT's? How can they survive with that much money being lost? Sure they probably recuperate it from the rake vig% charged to enter the MTT but still they are losing $$. Like in the 1 Million Dollar MTT they only had like just over 800k the last time I saw the total Prize pool if I remember correctly. It was like clos to 900k like $865k.

That's a lose of 135k prizepool. Sure they made a lot fro the rake from each entrant but still.....What you think?
05-21-2015 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stanknutty
I think ACR personally Is a great site. But anyone else realize how much overlay they have with the MTT's? How can they survive with that much money being lost? Sure they probably recuperate it from the rake vig% charged to enter the MTT but still they are losing $$. Like in the 1 Million Dollar MTT they only had like just over 800k the last time I saw the total Prize pool if I remember correctly. It was like clos to 900k like $865k.

That's a lose of 135k prizepool. Sure they made a lot fro the rake from each entrant but still.....What you think?
The backbone of this company is their sportsbook. Most of their tourneys hit their guarantees but some of them don't as well its a ever changing schedule of finding the right mix and waiting for the player pool to grow. But its getting there.
05-22-2015 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by idun215
The backbone of this company is their sportsbook. Most of their tourneys hit their guarantees but some of them don't as well its a ever changing schedule of finding the right mix and waiting for the player pool to grow. But its getting there.
and how would you know what the backbone of their company is? Have you seen their books?
05-22-2015 , 12:16 PM
Not until they bring back 50/50s. The SNGs and tourneys are so light its pathetic, hard to get games going, at least on low stakes. I don't do cash games. The tourneys, when you do get in them, though, can be pretty damn soft as said earlier. But DONs used to be free guaranteed money.
05-22-2015 , 01:58 PM
I love a.c.r.

My only issue is crazy late registration..

I understand why they do it but more than 120minutes is outright laughable..

I enjoy playing tourneys daily bit I don't have 6 hours to play a decent tournament..

Don't they know I would enter more tournaments on my day off as an individual and more people wouldn't mind entering daily if they knew it wasnt a 7 hour commitment..
05-22-2015 , 02:21 PM
We do have many 2 hour late reg tournaments. They average around 4 hours to complete.

They dont get a huge amount of runners but when i start seeing them really fly then there will be more 2 HR LR. I promise i wish that i could have great guarantees with that same structure across the board but still we are not big enough to guarantee for 200 with it.
05-22-2015 , 02:30 PM
Omg!! Thanks for replying..
As I mentioned it, I get it so I do stay in the 120 minutes range as a form of compromise.
60 minutes being optimal..

Your are the best, fast cash outs and honest card dealing and good c.s.
05-22-2015 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RU18LOL
and how would you know what the backbone of their company is? Have you seen their books?
They are owned by Betcris.
05-22-2015 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by idun215
The backbone of this company is their sportsbook. Most of their tourneys hit their guarantees but some of them don't as well its a ever changing schedule of finding the right mix and waiting for the player pool to grow. But its getting there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RU18LOL
and how would you know what the backbone of their company is? Have you seen their books?
It's true.

Quote:
Originally Posted by idun215
They are owned by Betcris.
Tis true.


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