No, not new. I just never really posted on here. I mostly use my account on Pocketfives for comments (which has the same name.)

I agree all sites have policies and different TOS. It is the player's choice to decide if they want to deal with that site. I personally have been able to withdraw money from ACR on multiple occasions (using debit card method, and Bitcoin), but I have also had occasions where I was rejected after days of waiting and then rejected again with no good reason. Using those factors and other ACR flags, I personally don't really mess with your site.

But focusing back on the thread at hand if it wasn't clear:

If you deposit $1000, and you plan to withdraw more than $1000 you need to run up at least $100 in rake for ACR. Personally that is a deal breaker, I can't speak for anyone else. But I am glad that is in the open now.

Been out in the open forever with every single site on the web basically. You have some weird ass bone to pick. If you're going to claim that you had other withdrawals denied for other unbeknownst reasoning you should really leave proof of that if you want others to make the same "informed" decision you are.

I have no bones to pick. I saw the original poster's message and thought I would speak on it. I think WPN has a dumb rule. I tend to talk too much, so I just shared a little bit about my own preference, but I am not going into detail on those preferences because they aren't relevant to the post, more just a response to the ACR rep.

I think my statements and what I highlighted are pretty clear. I don't like this rule of forcing someone to play a percentage of rake based on how much they deposited. I think that is practically theft. It is holding your money hostage for no reason other than the company wants to have your money sit in their account. A 2 day wait period sure, a fee to withdraw great, but forcing you to dance for dollars, I don't like it.

i presume that most sites would be happy to cash you out "early" if you are paying the processing fees (for dep and withdrawal). the problem is getting in touch with someone at any site to explain this too

Yeah, those bastards should start giving us free drinks while we play, too.

Thread winner.

If they would do that, then the ACR rep who had comments earlier could have volunteered that info. So he is certainly free to let us know if ACR has that option. But I highly doubt it. They need players to keep playing more so than they want players to pay a "fee" to withdraw their money. Which is funny because you still have to pay a fee to withdraw so... the 10% is more just about forcing players to keep playing.

You do know that you can deposit different amounts right?

so 10% could be very little or quite alot.

Lol, Why didn't anyone think of that?!? There you go Pmarrsouth, ACR has spoken.

I was wondering if you understood.

If we made you play longer i think if you did deposit 100$

You should probably be able to withdraw after a few hours. So much for us keeping you on the site.

We should probably make it 25% rake. Thanks for arguing now we wont lose as much money

ACR Guy what are you talking about? If you deposit $100 in order to meet the 10% quota playing at a reasonable level for a $100 bankroll (.02/.05 / short stacked .05/.10) you need to play roughly 1000 - 1500 hands of PLO, more like 1800 - 2400 hands of NL. Meaning if you were playing a single table you would need to play for anywhere between 12.5 - 30 hrs depending on your game at those levels.

So in order for you to exit the site quicker you would need to play outside of your deposit roll or multi-table. The example I gave applies for anyone trying to follow decent bankroll management regardless of what amount they deposit. Anyway not really sure what you are arguing. It is an awful stipulation from a player's perspective. But it is what it is.

I argue at your shady comment.

You coud play sngs and be done within a couple of hours. Not every player that deposits just plays cash.