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04-24-2017 , 07:40 PM
So I just fired up 10 of these for the first time today. 8 of them were 0 green cards, 1 was 1 green card, and 1 was 3 green cards. So, was this just some run bad or are these green cards typically this hard to come by?

I mean this was fun and everything but it doesn't seem like a very good bet if 80% of these things are 0 green cards. Obviously a super small sample size so I thought I would ask some of you who may have been playing these for a little while now.

I mean I guess the green cards are half the deck so it was just some bad luck but it was a bad start for my first experience.

Last edited by OG_Rounder; 04-24-2017 at 08:03 PM.
04-24-2017 , 08:21 PM
Yep, bad luck.
04-24-2017 , 09:15 PM
Every time a gold card cames fish start asking in the chat: nothing happens? Prize is the same?
Wpn, just do something please...
04-24-2017 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pagasses...
Every time a gold card cames fish start asking in the chat: nothing happens? Prize is the same?
Wpn, just do something please...
It is weird that a gold card doesnt raise the value of the prize pool at all. Like you get a gold card and then a red and the prize pool doesnt move at all. Should at least have the value of a black card or even like 1.5X to the prize pool without hitting the jackpot being that its a gold card.

Another thing i would change is how EVERYBODY agrees cards should at least raise the value of the top spots some. Seems absurd that 1st barely goes up when tons of cards are drawn. A change recs,bad regs, and regs alike would like.

Make the 11s+ 6max so they actually will pop more.

I think everything else is perfect. . We just need bigger buyins to pop off.
04-25-2017 , 12:00 PM
These are drying up fast. Can see these just being completely dead not too long from now. Theres honestly no point in playing these over a regular 9 man turbo imo with the payouts the way they are.
04-25-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
Is the auto table pop up working properly these days?
- This is in dev queue, should be ready by next upload.

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Originally Posted by Djevelen
Correct me if I am wrong, but WPN are working on fixing the HHs so that they say how big the prize pool is for each SNG.
- That is correct. Not sure it will be ready for the next upload, but it is high up in the dev list.

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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos
1 thing, now is no way to know what ANTE is as it is not displayed anywhere. Is possible to add to TITLE bar? I assumed there was NO ante but then realised stack going down becaus ante in place.
- This is already in the dev queue.

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Puck
Any chance of changing the "average wait" in the SnG 2.0 tab to "X of 9 players"?
- This is already in the dev queue.

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Originally Posted by OG_Rounder
I mean I guess the green cards are half the deck so it was just some bad luck but it was a bad start for my first experience.
- Maybe you guys can keep track of every player that PICKS red cards on first turn and put them in a "RED CARD PICKER" thread in the forum :P

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Originally Posted by Pagasses...
Every time a gold card cames fish start asking in the chat: nothing happens? Prize is the same?
Wpn, just do something please...
something like what? we cant force people to read game rules or watch youtube videos in order to understand how a game works
04-25-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WPN_Rep2
- This is in dev queue, should be ready by next upload.



- That is correct. Not sure it will be ready for the next upload, but it is high up in the dev list.



- This is already in the dev queue.



- This is already in the dev queue.



- Maybe you guys can keep track of every player that PICKS red cards on first turn and put them in a "RED CARD PICKER" thread in the forum :P


something like what? we cant force people to read game rules or watch youtube videos in order to understand how a game works
What about higher payouts for top prizes?
04-25-2017 , 07:01 PM
I'm going to go against the grain here a bit on the payout scales issue. The majority opinion seems to clearly be that they need to be more top-heavy, but I actually don't mind the flatter structure with more green pulls. You get a steeper structure 50% of the time anyways when 2/9 spots pay, so I feel fine with having a normal structure (3/9 pay) 25% of the time and a flatter structure the other 25% of the time (4+/9 pay). I may be okay with some minor tweaks, but I like the structures generally.
04-25-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WPN_Rep2
- Maybe you guys can keep track of every player that PICKS red cards on first turn and put them in a "RED CARD PICKER" thread in the forum :P
I saw that thrash dude pick a red card once. Keeping my eye on him and will report back. ( -_-)
04-25-2017 , 09:34 PM
Enable the tomato throw at someone who picks a red card.
04-25-2017 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by misk
I'm going to go against the grain here a bit on the payout scales issue. The majority opinion seems to clearly be that they need to be more top-heavy, but I actually don't mind the flatter structure with more green pulls. You get a steeper structure 50% of the time anyways when 2/9 spots pay, so I feel fine with having a normal structure (3/9 pay) 25% of the time and a flatter structure the other 25% of the time (4+/9 pay). I may be okay with some minor tweaks, but I like the structures generally.
You want what is best for you who play 20+ tables veryday for 8 hours but WPN will do what fish want cause regs like you will play no mather what.
04-26-2017 , 09:15 AM
I agree there should be a boost for the gold card, at least worth a green card. And if you get to the end with 6 red and 3 gold, just end there. Adjust/reduce the jackpot multipliers accordingly. As it is now, unless you get 3 gold cards, it's better to just get a green card than a gold.
04-26-2017 , 11:04 AM
For the love of god get this massive red circle off the table.
04-26-2017 , 11:49 AM
I don't mind the action spotlight but please change the color (or offer the option to change the color). I think a white/grey would be easier on the eyes.
04-26-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
I saw that thrash dude pick a red card once. Keeping my eye on him and will report back. ( -_-)
What a scoundrel!
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Originally Posted by misk
Enable the tomato throw at someone who picks a red card.
Now THAT'S and idea.
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Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu
For the love of god get this massive red circle off the table.
Done.
04-26-2017 , 12:06 PM
I like the spotlight! Makes easier to track ACTION!
04-26-2017 , 12:13 PM
I def appreciate the effort by WPN in making these better. I think some sort of spotlight/attention grabber is a good idea but that massive red circle was a little much.
04-26-2017 , 12:40 PM
It wasn't supposed to be there.
04-26-2017 , 04:27 PM
This is the list of improvements made today in the morning:
- All-in cards are no longer blocking the player name.
- Folded Cards mouse area is now improved.
- Bug Fix: only able to see one card in your hand.
- Bug Fix: When BB is all-in with less then BB, call amount now remains the BB instead of all-in amount.
- Bug Fix: Initial Cards graphic still being displayed even during gameplay.
04-26-2017 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WPN_Rep2
This is the list of improvements made today in the morning:
- All-in cards are no longer blocking the player name.
Nice. Glad to hear that one.
04-26-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu
These are drying up fast. Can see these just being completely dead not too long from now. Theres honestly no point in playing these over a regular 9 man turbo imo with the payouts the way they are.
Yup, I envision this too thats why I was offering some suggestions myself. Personally I dont care if they run or not, it was a cool addition to look forward to here and there. But I am rooting for them to figure it out nonetheless

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Puck
Abandon after 1 month of great success?

If people want hypers they can play them.

The entire premise of SNG 2.0s was to reinvent the standard format. It worked. Overall traffic and interest has surged

In the midst of all of us lobbing criticisms and suggestions and whatnot, the success of it cannot be forgotten.

WPN did a really good job. They have something with these. There just needs to be a few tweaks, tests, and research so the $11s+ are healthier.

Getting rid of that "average time" game killer would be a good start.
true it was to reinvent but like you alluded games 11+ arent healthy infact they dont run. I dont even know if a 50 or 100 ever ran, if so Id bet my money under 50 games total. I dont just saw this for no reason, I open sat 27.5 for 3-4 hours for 3-4 days without one popping off.

So when the top 3 of 5 BIs dont run, Id say you got a big problem. If they just want 5.5s and 11s to run so be it, but good luck becoming a bigger network then, its just not gonna happen.
04-26-2017 , 10:13 PM
11s run a bit during the prime time hours. Right after happy hour though they die out and you'll be lucky to get a game. Bigger then that doesnt run. For sure need to make the bigger ones 6 max to get them to pop off.

Maybe leave 5s and 11s full ring. Change the bigger ones to 6max.

Make gold cards worth a green or possibly 1.5x to a green. You can easily change the odds and prize pool to make this work. You normally see a gold drawn first and are like "Great 70.00 prize pool incoming" When it should be more exciting so making it like break even or 1.5x would be really cool.

Then changing the prize pool to add a bit more to the first couple spots rather then be so flat and boring.

That would mkae these grow IMO. Formats pretty fun with tons of potential with a couple little tweaks.
04-27-2017 , 06:19 AM
I agree we should get some reward for pulling a gold card. It would kinda suck if your table miraculously pulls 8 greens and 2 gold cards and then the last person pulls a red card all for that and you only end up with almost the same top prize as if you were if you didn't pull any green or gold cards. It would just mean more people got paid and thats it.
04-28-2017 , 02:10 PM
Maybe you could do the individual who pulls the gold card gets their buyin back or something like that.
04-28-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Maybe you could do the individual who pulls the gold card gets their buyin back or something like that.
Person who pulls a red has a buyin bounty on there head

      
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