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03-31-2017 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu
What are the odds that in a random seating the same player is one to your right for 6 games in a row? Not to mention it wasnt the first time. How can you just dismiss that? And im not the only one. Great customer service. Top notch.
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03-31-2017 , 06:31 PM
[mod edit: no more from this so called 'bug' without evidence]

Last edited by WPN_Rep2; 03-31-2017 at 06:37 PM.
03-31-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mjmuncy
I couldn't agree more with this post, your little test of 4 games isn't enough. I've played ~200 of these. I register 8 at a time. It's impeccable how I have the same reg seated to my right or left.

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Guys, look just stop with the assumptions. If you are going to report a so call BUG the least you could do is attach evidence to back up your claims..

This has been tested and confirmed random, want to dispute that? go right ahead, with evidence and we will gladly take a look.
no evidence? you will get edited.
03-31-2017 , 06:49 PM
yes my answers have been a little unprofessional.. TBH thats how i have always been.

I try to be rational but to listen to so many irrational comments and people that i tilt just like everyone else.

I have said so many times.. We can always go this route. Thank you for your comment sir we will take a look, it has been noted?

The funny thing is... No one can see who regs at the same time so im not sure how you know the other reg has done it at the same time as you.

As for Timhardy, yes if i test 4 and the seating is different then i know its random. You can all go home!
03-31-2017 , 06:50 PM
Basing your conclusions on a sample size of 4 is lol.
03-31-2017 , 06:53 PM
Basing the fact the i regged exactly the same time as the others we all clicked it together. I would say its a fact.
Even if i regged 2 with someone else and they are in different seats, surely that is enough sample size to tell me its random.

I will tell you what guys.

I will not open 2+2 for a week or so to let myself cool down. Seems like the best thing to do.
03-31-2017 , 06:53 PM
So if i test 6 and its not then? Im not the only. One side of the arguement seems to have a lot more to go on than the other. Provide evidence or please edit. Ive played over 200 fwiw.
03-31-2017 , 06:56 PM
wow. Literally i went ahead and tested it.

They were not in the same seat. What more do you want from me?
03-31-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
wow. Literally i went ahead and tested it.

They were not in the same seat. What more do you want from me?
Who did you play with from here?? Where the proof? Wheres the evidence like you are asking from everyone?
03-31-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
yes my answers have been a little unprofessional.. TBH thats how i have always been.

I try to be rational but to listen to so many irrational comments and people that i tilt just like everyone else.

I have said so many times.. We can always go this route. Thank you for your comment sir we will take a look, it has been noted?

The funny thing is... No one can see who regs at the same time so im not sure how you know the other reg has done it at the same time as you.

As for Timhardy, yes if i test 4 and the seating is different then i know its random. You can all go home!
Well I hate to break it to you but this is what you signed up for when you took the position. And to be honest if I was your boss I wouldn't want to have someone in your position (representing the company) be nothing less than professional 100% of the time. It doesn't matter if a person is being irrational or not their business is just as important as the next guy.

As for your question about me not knowing if a person registered at the same time as me I know that is not the case because it takes a few minutes for each game to fire. If people where registering at the same time they would go off faster. The timing of the games tends be that I register for 4 at a time and have to wait a few minutes and then they go off very close to each other. So basically the regs start to fill the games and then a few randoms close out registration.

But do as you will, seems to me a person who really was keen on making sure there wasn't a bug would do a little more investigating then just playing 4 games.
03-31-2017 , 07:02 PM
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yes my answers have been a little unprofessional.. TBH thats how i have always been.
That's fine from my perspective. Don't mind snark.

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The funny thing is... No one can see who regs at the same time so im not sure how you know the other reg has done it at the same time as you.
When I saw the same player in the same spot in relation to me across 6-8 games (e.g. 1 to my right, 1 to my left, 2 to my right), I assumed it had to do with registration patterns since no other pattern was discernable to me. I think additional (anecdotal) evidence for this came from the fact that I would sometimes notice that pattern disrupted by a single seat -- which would make sense if another player registered in between when that player and I registered for, say, the last three games.

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As for Timhardy, yes if i test 4 and the seating is different then i know its random. You can all go home!
I'm glad you looked into it...but obviously 4 games is not an adequate sample size. If any statisticians want to work up some p values, that would be great...surely won't be statistically significant.

I'll just end by saying this: I'm happy to accept that you've looked into it and to track my games carefully going forward to see if I can find evidence. But I also would like to say that I've played ~1500 9 man regular SnGs on this site over the past few months and never had any complaints or concerns about seating being randomized. Then I started playing SnG 2.0s and noticed that over my first couple sessions that many of my tables had quite similar seating orders with the same regs being directly to my left/right. I posted about that non-confrontationally in this thread as soon as I noticed it:

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Is the seating for SnGs supposed to be randomized? Because I'm pretty sure it is not for SnG 2.0s and is instead based on the order of registration. I've noticed that if I reg a few tables at a time I often have the same 1-2 regs to my direct left (who presumably reg'd multiple tables just before or just after me).
That's from page 15 of this thread and was posted 10 days ago. BeerBottlez immediately responded that he was noticing the same thing.

WPN Rep actively solicited feedback from multi-tablers in this thread. Numerous players raised this same concern. Don't get so defensive when folks actually come with the feedback you've solicited.
03-31-2017 , 07:05 PM
Have you ever seen the CEO on twitch?

We run $69 Million Jpts and a monthly 69er.

Just so you know, i didnt sign up for a customer service job to help the 100's of players that come to me but i still do it.

I have full support from the CEO and not trying to sound big headed but you are lucky i do what i do because this isnt in the job description.

Now back to the seating issue. If i had played 4 and they werent random surely that is a small sample size. I dont get what you understand from i played 4 and they were all seated randomly. Isnt 2 being random enough to that its random?
03-31-2017 , 07:05 PM
I think the thing is they obviously have a lot of problems with these in different areas and they dont know exactly whats going on. Which is completley fine, but to just brush off multiple peoples claims as total bull while providing nothing to dispute it is very odd.
03-31-2017 , 07:08 PM
How can I post pictures. I just so happened to take a snapshot of both games
03-31-2017 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD

Now back to the seating issue. If i had played 4 and they werent random surely that is a small sample size. I dont get what you understand from i played 4 and they were all seated randomly. Isnt 2 being random enough to that its random?
Wow. This is truly amazing.
03-31-2017 , 07:10 PM
Providing nothing to dispute. WOW... I provided enough evidence IMO to show that it is random..

Playing 2 or 3 or 4 and having players seated randomly in my experience is enough to know its random.

Last week in the Sunday storm $1 anniversary. i regged 5 minutes apart from a friend. He was on the table 23 i was on 22.
03-31-2017 , 07:10 PM
Winning TD here you go, 5 out of 6 tables mightymouse direct on left. Coincidence?
http://imgur.com/a/paHTv
03-31-2017 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu
Wow. This is truly amazing.
You are truly amazing.
03-31-2017 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos
Winning TD here you go, 5 out of 6 tables mightymouse direct on left. Coincidence?
http://imgur.com/a/paHTv
Guess so!
03-31-2017 , 07:11 PM
I was one of the people who played the 4 games with winning td. i regged all 4 at once and they went off a couple of minutes apart. He was to my left, to my right, and across from me. No pattern to how we were seated in relation to each other.

The fact that he 3 outed me to win one heads up is a different story. Obv rigged for him.
03-31-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos
Winning TD here you go, 5 out of 6 tables mightymouse direct on left. Coincidence?
http://imgur.com/a/paHTv
Seems to be many regs on the same table
03-31-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Guess so!
If i can get a few more screenshot like this tonight is enough proof for you to accept wrong? Will do.
03-31-2017 , 07:16 PM
http://imgur.com/a/yuHUG
Here again, notice hacked's comment.
He is only visible on 3 tables but on all Mark me green direct on left. And before that Nick on his right.
03-31-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos
Winning TD here you go, 5 out of 6 tables mightymouse direct on left. Coincidence?
http://imgur.com/a/paHTv
This is perfect evidence that there's a seating bug. I've had this exact same scenario happen to me several times. I will also take a screen shot during my next session.

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03-31-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Have you ever seen the CEO on twitch?

We run $69 Million Jpts and a monthly 69er.

Just so you know, i didnt sign up for a customer service job to help the 100's of players that come to me but i still do it.

I have full support from the CEO and not trying to sound big headed but you are lucky i do what i do because this isnt in the job description.

Now back to the seating issue. If i had played 4 and they werent random surely that is a small sample size. I dont get what you understand from i played 4 and they were all seated randomly. Isnt 2 being random enough to that its random?
Well if it isn't part of the job description and you get so upset about responding to people here the solution is simple.... don't do it. I would rather you not be here speaking like your answers are the end be all especially since lately you have been wrong on two accounts ( the ghost games and refunds for those games which still haven't come). And as final note it is not us but you who is lucky. Without the players the site doesn't exist and therefore your position doesn't either. So maybe you need you rethink your importance around here.

      
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