• Customizable preset bet sizes.
  
• Built in basic hotkeys. (For betting. Bonus for table management like cycling tables.)
  
• Include antes in the window title with the sb and bb : ab/bb (ante)
  
• Offer an option for a simplified theme with as little "clutter" as possible. For example, no avatar area, chip stacks with only a single chip, monotone card backs/table/felt, flat graphics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_design, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_Design), large and clear fonts (even better, an option to set font size).
  
• Stating the obvious, facilitate HUDs.

If you're serious about multitabling I suggest you get a second monitor. I get that the table popup thing is annoying but I'm pretty sure you'll love tiling 8 (or more) tables while grinding, trust me

Some would say, if you're serious about multi-tabling, you're stacking 'em up.

Not to knock on tiling; wish I could tile efficiently.

Could not agree more with this. If ACR had 50% of the smoothness in software that Pokerstars does, I would grind 10-12 of these at a time. But right now I only do 2.

I'm just going to list all the things I jotted down during my session tonight. Many of them will already have been mentioned by other multi-tablers, but here are mine:

- The pop to front issues make multi-tabling difficult and sharply increase risk of misclicks and accidental time-outs. Additionally, as I've mentioned before, I think the next table pending action pops too quickly after you act on the first table. I.e. the speed at which it switches between tables is so fast that it's difficult to see if the action on the first table was completed.

- Notes are very handy for effective multi-tabling.

- The issue with antes makes determining the blinds take a couple seconds.

- Half chips can confuse.

- No last hand makes it difficult to tell if the guy who just stacked off did so reasonably or not which is key for me in terms of building profiles on players.

- A lot of times I'm typing either in a web browser or on the tables while I play, but if you hit enter after a new table has popped to front you often min-raise because by default the cursor is in the "enter bet amount" window.

- Not knowing how long until next blind level.

- When a player goes all in, their cards cover their names. If someone shoves AIPF first hand w/23o and is busting, I want to know that players name but can't because the cards cover the name and if they lose the hand they disappear from the table.

- Seating is based on order of registration and not randomized. So if I register 8 tables and a good regular player registers 8 right before/after me (not sure which), he'll be to my left/right at every table.

Additionally, these games are just more difficult to multi-table because the play is faster (software + shorter timebanks) and because you have different ICM considerations on different tables (deep payout vs. steep payout).

All in all though, these are great games. I'm enjoying very much. Great move WPN and I'm glad to see they're coming to other skins tomorrow.

If press enter to talk to person it raises. Is sad if talking HU and then accident raise. Happen to me and opponent a lot, make it less fun.

Only 2? I'm playing 8 at a time without any issues. Could probably do 12+ but the max is 10 sng 2.0's atm

Alright, so I made a half ass spread sheet on Google Docs. I played three games last night and recorded the info.

Binked two and cashed the third. Real simple model but it will it do for now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Spreadsheet looks good bber. I've been using something similar:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Multitabling issues I have which I don't think have been mentioned:

1. My table pop up issue is a little different than everybody else's, I think. My issue is that when I prefold a hand that table will still pop to front and the my turn alert also still sounds even though I have no action to take because I have already checked the fold button

2. Sometimes when I press the fold, check, or bet buttons it doesn't register. It has sometimes taken 4-5 clicks for it to register. This makes it difficult to multitable because not only does it take more time to make your play but also because sometimes I will press fold/check/bet then quickly click on another table assuming my action at previous table had already been taken and I end up timing out. This is a problem I have not noticed on your non sng 2.0 tables.

damn misk look at you. That's pretty detailed. You manually type that all in there or do you have some program pulling the data?

Pretty bad ass. Especially knowing a couple of those games were against me heheh

Are there any plans to do satellite promos with SNG 2.0 like Jackpot has done in the past? Some OSS or WSOP sattys would be pretty sweet.

Yeah unfortunately I'm manually entering that data right now. I think I'm going to be able to set it up in the future such that if you enter "2" in the greens column, the places paid column will auto-populate to 4 and the prize pool will auto-populate to $55.00. Then when you enter your finish, say it's 3rd place, the prize and win/loss will auto-populate.

It's a good bit of detail but I'm hoping it will be helpful looking at a few things, like which pay-out structures I need to work on most and whether I'm running good or bad with regard to prizepools (which will in turn help me assess if I'm playing +/-EV even I'm downswinging as it may be due to a run of crappy draws).

Yea this. I prefer to either cascade or stack because it limits distraction from the decision at hand. Before black friday I was running 30-35 18 mans this way on stars. While I don't have the time or will to get back to that level, I'd feel comfortable running at least 15 of these if the software was different.

Furthermore, even with tiling just a few tables, there's very little to indicate which tables need to act. If I was tiling 8+ I would want something like a flashing table outline on my tables requiring action. The time bank bar is very easy to miss when multi-tabling and is the only indication of required action.

I also don't know if it's been said yet, but I'm not a fan of the progressive prize distribution in the current form. I do like increasing the amount of places paid, but not as quickly as it does at the cost of keeping the top spots completely flat.

Yes I think this too! Be better if say for every 2 extra green 1 extra pay and 1st goes up by 1 min cash?

For a higher payout game, the prize pool pyramid should get bigger, not flatter. This would make me way more likely to play.

I agree with not being a huge fan of the payouts

I think most would prefer to win like 10+ buy-ins for first when they draw a largish prize pool rather some token safety net of getting your buy-in back if you finish 6th or whatever

Good for you little buddy!

P.S. everyone's situation is different.

The payouts could be a little more top heavy indeed but the variance right is pretty low which is nice for a change

Misk please keep us updated when your sample grows! Thanks for sharing all your information it is really interesting and helpful

Hello all, it's been a few years since I've posted. Misk, I'm pretty sure we have played a few. I am pretty much a rusty recreational player here myself.

Anyway I guess I could add my two cents. I do not like how a players screen name is cut off and replaced with... Unless these two guys at my table didn't chat, they had the same first 9 letters of the screen name. I would just like to see an entire name and not have it cut off.

I would really like to take notes on players.

I do not like how hitting Enter makes you bet. It also causes issues as type this post now and sometimes pops up my table.

Overall, I like these games they are fun.

It's also very tiliting to pre-click fold and then have that table pop up to show you fold, then you have to click on that table you folded just to click back to the table you had action on.

Another Juicy night. Played about 6 games and cashed in all 6. Binked 5, and finished 3rd in the other for a little profit. Bout damn time I bink a game with higher payouts. Overall, turned a min deposit into 30 Buy ins which isn't too shabby. Just going to keep grinding it up and have fun.

Few notes:
1. Wait times much lower and accurate
2. Extremely laggy tonight. Worse than any other days I feel like
3. Saw some new names and faces. With the exception of a few regs on here, nice to see new faces.

Last 9 won 7, 2 2nds and a 3rd? That impossible!