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This idea would be awesome for the person who pulls a red card. Make it so if a red is pulled before any greens, a bounty of about half to a full buy in go on their head.

04-28-2017 , 11:16 PM

#877

chopsy2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakaren

This idea would be awesome for the person who pulls a red card. Make it so if a red is pulled before any greens, a bounty of about half to a full buy in go on their head.

You do understand this would kill sng 2.0 right? 50% of the jackpot comes from the fact that half of the games only payout only two spots, that is how the prize pool grows and thus allows for games to payout more spots at a less frequent rate. What your suggestion does is basically turn the games into a one person bounty sng.

While I agree the payouts need to be changed it can't come at the expense of games where a red card is drawn first.

04-28-2017 , 11:21 PM

#878

bber45

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Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 123

Well is it me, or tonight's traffic was really low? Took a lot longer to get a game at the 11 dollar game. 5 dollar games were slow too.

04-29-2017 , 09:12 PM

#879

Zakaren

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Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopsy2

You do understand 2.0s already are pretty dead as it is. Sad since they already are having trouble and are fairly new.11 dollar and up games are fairly non existent. Something needs to be done. Most people are unhappy with the payout structure and gold cards not doing anything. Now if a red is pulled first having a bounty for that person for a buying wouldn't kill the site and would keep people happy. Plus it would step up the action for that game.

04-29-2017 , 11:14 PM

#880

chopsy2

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakaren

The incentive to play these games is the chance at a large prize pool, having a bounty for a red card pulled first would mean there is going to be no prize pool. I am not really sure why that is such a hard concept to grasp. The changes that need to be made are to decrease the amount places paid out so that winning a sng actually is something exciting not just the same as winning a regular sit and go.

04-30-2017 , 09:27 PM

#881

timhardawyhatesu

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I think the payouts could use some tweaking but lol at adding a bounty.

04-30-2017 , 11:32 PM

#882

Pagasses...

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 959

Quote:

Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu

I think the payouts could use some tweaking but lol at adding a bounty.

yep, a bounty, lol.

A gold card doubles the payouts.

Using a 5$ as an example. After 3 green cards that pay 65$, 5 places paid, stop paying more places and start paying more to the 5 first places.

But do it, dont let the games die.

05-01-2017 , 12:38 AM

#883

SeeTheMirage

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 650

IMO, should never be more than 3 players paid until a jackpot hits. I could live with 4 getting paid once we get into the 7-8 green card range

For jackpots I don't have a problem with everyone getting something

05-01-2017 , 10:08 AM

#884

zoogenhiem

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage

+100

05-02-2017 , 08:57 AM

#885

Max Cut

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Any word on whether the Sit&Crush happy hour timing issue has been remedied or is it still awarding based on finish time for SNG2/JPP?

05-02-2017 , 09:30 AM

#886

timhardawyhatesu

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How many AP's do you get for both the $5 and $11's?

05-02-2017 , 09:44 AM

#887

Max Cut

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0.6 for $5.50 and 1.25 for $11

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edit:

$5.50 = 2.09 AP
$11.00 = 4.125 AP

Last edited by Max Cut; 05-02-2017 at 10:01 AM.

05-02-2017 , 09:53 AM

#888

timhardawyhatesu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

0.6 for $5.50 and 1.25 for $11

Thanks Max, thats AP's and not sit and crush points right?

05-02-2017 , 09:58 AM

#889

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu

Thanks Max, thats AP's and not sit and crush points right?

Whoops, good catch, those were SNC points.

I believe APs are:

$5.50 = 2.09 AP
$11.00 = 4.125 AP

$5.50:
$0.50 rake - $0.12 SNC fee = $0.38 net rake
$0.38 x 5.5 AP/$ = 2.09 AP

$11.00:
$1.00 rake - $0.25 SNC fee = $0.74 net rake
$0.75 x 5.5 AP/$ = 4.125 AP

Last edited by Max Cut; 05-02-2017 at 10:06 AM.

05-02-2017 , 11:35 AM

#890

timhardawyhatesu

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Thanks. Seems like the $5's are slowly drying up now. I think its probably GG 2.0 at this point.

05-02-2017 , 12:05 PM

#891

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

Any word on whether the Sit&Crush happy hour timing issue has been remedied or is it still awarding based on finish time for SNG2/JPP?

Confirmed, not fixed yet.

05-02-2017 , 01:20 PM

#892

Knuckle Puck

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 182

I played enough $11s Saturday through Sunday that I went to bed Sunday night with the 2.0 theme music looping in my head. So I'm not really sure where the dying stuff is coming from (excluding $27s+).

Also, I've been mixing the standard SNG format ($10s and $15s) with the 2.0s and traffic is really, really correlated (as expected). If the SNG 2.0s aren't popping off in prime hours then the standard games are only filling a tad faster (1.5:1 ish). And a lot of that is because there are a group of a dozen or so regs who grind a lifeless 16 hours per day.

05-02-2017 , 03:29 PM

#893

bber45

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Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu

Thanks. Seems like the $5's are slowly drying up now. I think its probably GG 2.0 at this point.

Yeah I have been having a hard time trying to get games at the $5 level as well. Especially prime time hours on Sunday and Week Nights. Feels like the initial rush has died down and I'm cashing out.

Overall: Experience was good and the games were easy at first. Managed to take $25 and Cash out at $275. I'll take it.

Hopefully, they can make the proper tweaks and keep the game alive.

05-02-2017 , 05:15 PM

#894

WPN_Rep2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

Any word on whether the Sit&Crush happy hour timing issue has been remedied or is it still awarding based on finish time for SNG2/JPP?

this will be in included in the next update in 15 days or so.

also Im not saying we are changing payout structures for 2.0s, but just be aware that we are taking all your feedback into consideration.

05-03-2017 , 12:28 AM

#895

kyang314

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPN_Rep2

Thank you. You guys have the best SNG traffic in the US by far. Any,chance of opening 45 /90 mans?

05-03-2017 , 12:26 PM

#896

WPN_Rep2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kyang314

Thank you. You guys have the best SNG traffic in the US by far. Any,chance of opening 45 /90 mans?

thats a question better suited for @winning_td

05-03-2017 , 12:40 PM

#897

timhardawyhatesu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kyang314

Thank you. You guys have the best SNG traffic in the US by far. Any,chance of opening 45 /90 mans?

90 man turbo knock outs like on full tilt! I know i know they would never fill but i still dream about how soft those things were.

05-03-2017 , 02:45 PM

#898

APS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu

90 man turbo knock outs like on full tilt! I know i know they would never fill but i still dream about how soft those things were.

I think 180s would struggle during parts of the day but 45/90 man SnG's would do well during most hours of the day I would imagine. They are a nice in between for those that want more than 9 man SnG but dont like 3hr/5hr late reg for the MTTs.

05-03-2017 , 02:48 PM

#899

zoogenhiem

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Quote:

Originally Posted by APS

Um...try the on demand tournaments. They run pretty frequently and can get 25-40 runners. But also considering how much they don't run at times (requiring only 8-10 entrants to start), you are living in another world if you think a 45man SNG let alone a 90 or 180man would run. But I do highly suggest checking out the on demands for your nice in between.