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08-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

tombradybunch

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The payouts for the MOSS $250k min cash is $86.22 for a $88 buy-in, what a fkn joke

08-21-2017 , 12:51 AM

chopsy2

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But with rakeback you turn a profit right?

08-21-2017 , 12:55 AM

borg23

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who cares

08-21-2017 , 07:03 AM

H0RUS

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1st is over $70,000, **** the min cash

08-21-2017 , 10:19 AM

uradoodooface

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lol waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttt....... .............

08-21-2017 , 10:57 AM

PokerTitan

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I think some of you are missing the point. This is suppose to be the #1 option in the US. A 5hr late reg tourney where the min cash is this bad is crazy. The min cash should be 1.5x to 2x the buy-in.

08-21-2017 , 11:05 AM

H0RUS

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sounds like some sore losing min cashers are in this thread

08-21-2017 , 11:18 AM

Janice7776

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...times-1630593/

Make your vote here please ^^^^

and send a pm to WPN TD letting him know you support a 10% payout with 2x buy in min cash.

08-21-2017 , 12:10 PM

PokerTitan

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Sounds like some people are too stupid to post relevant comments.

08-21-2017 , 01:01 PM

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chopsy2

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I am curious was there an overlay in this event and also a min guarantee to the winner? If there weren't enough entrants then this would be why the min cash wasn't double

08-21-2017 , 02:13 PM

#11

kevinb1983

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nah, prizepool hit ~430k, it paid out ~13.7% of the field, and a mincash was ~98% of your buyin back

08-21-2017 , 02:44 PM

#12

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinb1983

nah, prizepool hit ~430k, it paid out ~13.7% of the field, and a mincash was ~98% of your buyin back

I highly doubt it was 13%... its more around 23.56% and min cash should start out at 1-5x... i think it should just be 20% since its a event and around 15-20% for regular tournaments.. kinda screwed up how you play an event.. min cash and still lose..

738 of 3133 is 23.56%

08-21-2017 , 02:59 PM

#13

RocketShips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

Try again, 13.69456299870106% of the field cashed, shame on above poster for rounding up to 13.7. You have the wrong information, you're calculating it based off of unique entries, the total entries were 5389. If you didn't play the tournament why are you commenting?

I was also very confused when I saw the payout structure, it was terrible. Cash and lose money? How does this work?

08-21-2017 , 03:05 PM

#14

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketShips

so if only 10 players entered the tournament and bought in 1000 times each.. that would make entrants 10,000 and payout 10% of that is 1000 places for a 10 player field? i think YOU got your math wrong..

08-21-2017 , 03:18 PM

#15

RocketShips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

No, my math is still right, depsite your ridiculous example. None of their other tournaments pay out based on your dumb example, so why should this one?

Not sure why anyone would even come here to argue the other side, do you like tournaments with ****ty payout structures? Or do you just feel the need to be the smartest keyboard warrior online?

08-21-2017 , 03:26 PM

#16

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketShips

You don't base payout on entrants.. you base it on unique entrants.. the example i gave is the reason why.. it doesnt make sense to payout 10% of 10,000 re-entries when there's only 10 players in the field..

08-21-2017 , 03:39 PM

#17

chopsy2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

Uh, players entered and total buyins are two different things

08-21-2017 , 04:03 PM

#18

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chopsy2

Uh, players entered and total buyins are two different things

And your point is?

08-21-2017 , 05:19 PM

#19

PokerTitan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

ACR bases payouts off of total entries if it passes the guarantee and not unique entries.

08-21-2017 , 05:25 PM

#20

chopsy2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

And your point is?

That your example of 10 players buying in 1000 times each is wrong. No matter how many times the players buyin for there will only be ten players. The amount of spots paid out will be based on that.So basically I don't understand where you are coming from with the example you used.

08-21-2017 , 05:39 PM

#21

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chopsy2

Um.. ok... looks like someones been smoking today...

08-22-2017 , 12:35 PM

#22

chopsy2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

Um.. ok... looks like someones been smoking today...

Just going by the example that YOU gave which was complete nonsense.

08-22-2017 , 02:51 PM

#23

xBIGx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chopsy2

Just going by the example that YOU gave which was complete nonsense.

lol.. you gotta be the biggest moron on this site.. do nothing but trolling and you basically just confirmed what ive been trying to explain..

08-22-2017 , 03:01 PM

#24

chopsy2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xBIGx

lol.. you gotta be the biggest moron on this site.. do nothing but trolling and you basically just confirmed what ive been trying to explain..

But your example is absurd. You can't pay out 1000 spots when ten players enter. Such a stupid example doesn't illustrate the point you wish to make. If you want to make sense and get your point across provide an example which can actually happen.

As for being the biggest moron on the site well I can't really argue that point although you seem to be providing some stiff competition for that spot.