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12-07-2012 , 03:45 PM
+1 to the challenge cap thing

when a typical online poker player sits down to play, they are going to want to play for a few hours

i like skillbet but sometimes i sit down and queue up a few matches and then im just frozen out

if i could sit down and grind out a few dozen matches and then leave them in queue to resolve over the next day or whatever it would encourage me to put in MUCH more volume

if you made an infinite queue and also made it so that the F1/F2/F3 keys worked as hotkeys for the bet/call/fold buttons i would sit down and grind out a lot of challenges

then other players would be less likely for a long wait also

at least increase it to to 10+ i mean 3 is kinda ridiculous if i remember it was capped at 4 for the 1.50s and 5s and 3 for the 10s and 25s but im not certain
12-07-2012 , 06:45 PM
wow, that was fast. thanks.
12-07-2012 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
wow, that was fast. thanks.
You bet! You can do up to 6 now, and we'll up that again in a few days after we confirm there aren't any issues. Given the volume of games, I'm not sure we need much of a cap -- we'll probably keep raising it (unless we see some kind of problems)
12-07-2012 , 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin barker
+1 to the challenge cap thing

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if you made an infinite queue and also made it so that the F1/F2/F3 keys worked as hotkeys for the bet/call/fold buttons i would sit down and grind out a lot of challenges
interesting idea about hotkeys. So your idea is:

F1 is bet/raise (works like pressing bet/raise button so it would be min raise unless you entered an amount)
F2 is check/call and
F3 is fold?

Is that standard? (or is that your personal preference)
12-07-2012 , 09:04 PM
those are pretty standard

on some poker networks they are built directly into the software that way

there are a variety of 3rd party apps that allow you to assign the hotkeys to any key, but those are pretty common
12-07-2012 , 09:28 PM
i think that is backwards tho if the raise button is on the right then it's f3

f1 left button
f2 middle button
f3 right button
12-07-2012 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyLadyBlue
Wow!

What browser?

Still having the problem?
Firefox. I did live chat and he said I was the third person to report that problem and said the tech team was looking into it. 30 min later it worked (and I won)
12-07-2012 , 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVUskinsfan
Firefox. I did live chat and he said I was the third person to report that problem and said the tech team was looking into it. 30 min later it worked (and I won)
Yeah. He mentioned it earlier today. Sorry I failed to post it here. It was a bug of some sorts.
12-07-2012 , 11:21 PM
Damn I was really surprised that you can play legally in Alabama and Utah, but not in Florida! Very unsettling. :'(
12-08-2012 , 12:27 AM
Will some1 please play me on play money? I have been waiting for almost 20 minutes now.
12-08-2012 , 01:18 AM
Just played 3 matches (lost all 3), but it was
as fun.
12-08-2012 , 01:27 AM
Awesome +1 to the recent changes.
12-08-2012 , 03:58 AM
If you can do anything to speed up the hands (maybe a checkbox turbo option) where it does not have delay between the CPU actions and just flies through the rest of the hand as fast as possible. In regular matches both players would need to check this, or just yourself for challenges.

If the current delays are due to processing on your end, then obviously there is nothing that can be done about that (other than performance enhancements down the road) but if it is an artificial delay please give us the option to speed up the match.

If you could reduce the time it takes to play a match in half, I would play twice as many matches.
12-08-2012 , 10:25 AM
i think the live play could use some improvements to be less confusing to new players. when you view a table from the lobby, it just says $X.00 or $X.00 deep, which is a pretty vague description. you can't observe tables of other people playing for obv reasons, so you don't really know the structure of the game until you're bought in unless you've already played it (or read about it, but who does that?). I think it should at least include the blind sizes and there is plenty of room for that.

also, if you continue past the 30 hands in live play you are free to stop at any time, but if you don't already know that, it isn't so clear. iirc there is no quit button or anything like that and you just have to close the table. if you dont know how it works you just sit there forever wondering when its going to end not realizing that you can stop whenever you want.

i also don't really understand the live table limits. i know its always been very debatable the best lobby structure for HU games, but most of the limits have a max of 1 or 2 tables. that is a very tiny number.

also i think that sometimes action is discouraged because sitting first at a live table is a big disadvantage. other players can see you and decide if they want to play you, but if you are the first to sit, you are locked in to play whoever joins. i think it would make more sense for the person who sits to be able to decline action when someone joins, but get booted from the table when they do so. that way it doesn't discourage people from sitting, but at the same time it doesn't accommodate bumhunting.
12-08-2012 , 01:56 PM
you might want to call the stakes at the live play according to the blinds also

that is what players are used to seeing

for example, instead of calling it a $75 game, you could call it .10/.25 as that is what the blinds are and that is what the limit is referred to on other poker sites

that makes it more clear to players, but it also makes it less intimidating

there is a big difference between playing 30 hands of .10/.25 and playing a $75 SNG in terms of the average amount of money you tend to win/lose in a given match

most of the time at the $75 matches the loser is down less than $25
12-08-2012 , 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoe
If you can do anything to speed up the hands (maybe a checkbox turbo option) where it does not have delay between the CPU actions and just flies through the rest of the hand as fast as possible. In regular matches both players would need to check this, or just yourself for challenges.

If the current delays are due to processing on your end, then obviously there is nothing that can be done about that (other than performance enhancements down the road) but if it is an artificial delay please give us the option to speed up the match.

If you could reduce the time it takes to play a match in half, I would play twice as many matches.
Yup. We are on it. Not sure when i'll be done (or precisely how), but we'll offer faster tables. Thanks!
12-08-2012 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
i think the live play could use some improvements to be less confusing to new players. when you view a table from the lobby, it just says $X.00 or $X.00 deep, which is a pretty vague description. you can't observe tables of other people playing for obv reasons, so you don't really know the structure of the game until you're bought in unless you've already played it (or read about it, but who does that?). I think it should at least include the blind sizes and there is plenty of room for that.

also, if you continue past the 30 hands in live play you are free to stop at any time, but if you don't already know that, it isn't so clear. iirc there is no quit button or anything like that and you just have to close the table. if you dont know how it works you just sit there forever wondering when its going to end not realizing that you can stop whenever you want.

i also don't really understand the live table limits. i know its always been very debatable the best lobby structure for HU games, but most of the limits have a max of 1 or 2 tables. that is a very tiny number.

also i think that sometimes action is discouraged because sitting first at a live table is a big disadvantage. other players can see you and decide if they want to play you, but if you are the first to sit, you are locked in to play whoever joins. i think it would make more sense for the person who sits to be able to decline action when someone joins, but get booted from the table when they do so. that way it doesn't discourage people from sitting, but at the same time it doesn't accommodate bumhunting.
Thank you very much for the excellent feedback! It is very helpful.

(1) I like adding big blind to lobby. Makes the high buyin (relative to blind) less scary. $300 buy in sounds huge, but it's only a $2 big blind. Perhaps we should change "Buy-in" to "Buy-in, Blinds" and show

$300, $1.00/$2.00
$30, $0.10/$0.20

(2) Sit out button on the way...

(3) We are working adding tables dynamically -- as tables get filled up at a stake -- more will arrive automatically. At the moment this is manual.

(4) We understand the "sit first" issue. We are very surprised that so few people mention it as a problem, but we are debating a few fixes for it. i think it'll be elegantly solved soon.
12-08-2012 , 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin barker
you might want to call the stakes at the live play according to the blinds also

that is what players are used to seeing

for example, instead of calling it a $75 game, you could call it .10/.25 as that is what the blinds are and that is what the limit is referred to on other poker sites

that makes it more clear to players, but it also makes it less intimidating

there is a big difference between playing 30 hands of .10/.25 and playing a $75 SNG in terms of the average amount of money you tend to win/lose in a given match

most of the time at the $75 matches the loser is down less than $25
Yes! Thanks you!
12-08-2012 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoe
If you can do anything to speed up the hands (maybe a checkbox turbo option) where it does not have delay between the CPU actions and just flies through the rest of the hand as fast as possible. In regular matches both players would need to check this, or just yourself for challenges.

If the current delays are due to processing on your end, then obviously there is nothing that can be done about that (other than performance enhancements down the road) but if it is an artificial delay please give us the option to speed up the match.

If you could reduce the time it takes to play a match in half, I would play twice as many matches.
I like this. If I'm playing multiple challenges I need the CPU to take its time so I can play each hand correctly. But if I'm only playing one game, then this seems like an unnecessary delay.
12-09-2012 , 10:42 AM
i ran into a weird bug while playing a $10 match today. i had A4cc and it folded to me in the sb. i raised and got called by the bb. flop was something like 954, i bet, and then the table flickered and all of the bot avatars were replaced with different characters. bb went from being glasses guy to chuck norris, etc. also there was now a 3rd player in the hand, btn, that wasn't before. its possible that btn had just limped in and i didn't notice, but its very unlikely.

never seen anything like that happen before. doubt it had any effect at all on the match result since i totally bombed it anyway, but thought i would report it.

edit: hand # 2576767
12-09-2012 , 10:43 AM
also, i had all of the $25 matches and some $10 matches pending and they all just disappeared. thats not good.

edit: nm. they magically came back a few minutes later. whew...

Last edited by DaycareInferno; 12-09-2012 at 10:48 AM.
12-09-2012 , 11:53 AM
This was caused by a server upgrade. We shut down each table associated with a server (in theory elegantly) and restart it. Clearly, this one wasn't elegant. Apologies.
12-10-2012 , 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyLadyBlue

(1) I like adding big blind to lobby. Makes the high buyin (relative to blind) less scary. $300 buy in sounds huge, but it's only a $2 big blind. Perhaps we should change "Buy-in" to "Buy-in, Blinds" and show

$300, $1.00/$2.00
$30, $0.10/$0.20

sounds very helpful for new players
12-10-2012 , 05:47 PM
I agree, that would encourage more people to play the mid-stakes game when they see how low the blinds are for those games.
12-12-2012 , 01:34 PM
i just noticed that the blinds are now listed in the lobby. nice!

for some reason, today when i click the "play challenges now" link, the text in the popup is all marmalagoo. it all still works fine though.

      
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