Player 2 Transcript

**** History for game 2262562 ****
Blue Horse - 11/28/12 12:59:52 PM
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players: 6
Seat 1: Player 1 (25)
Seat 3: Player 3 (25)
Seat 5: Player 5 (25)
Seat 7: ------- (25)
Seat 9: Player 9 (25)
Seat 10: Player 10 (25)
Player 9 posts small blind 0.25
Player 10 posts big blind 0.5
Player 1 folds
Player 3 raises 1.5 [to 1.5]
Player 5 folds
------- raises 3.5 [to 3.5]
Player 9 folds
Player 10 folds
Player 3 calls 2 [to 3.5]
* Flop is dealt [5c,6d,Ac]
Player 3 checks
------- bets 3.87 [to 3.87]
Player 3 raises 13.37 [to 13.37]
------ all in 17.63
Player 3 all in 8.13
* Turn is dealt [2s]
* River is dealt [8d]
Vying for pot #1 (50.75): Player 3 -------
------- shows [As,Jd] Pair of Aces
Player 3 shows [Qc,Js] Ace-High
LadyBluff wins 50.75 from the Main pot


what kind of play is the cpu doing calling with qj against my opp?

Not all computer players are smart?

We need to find some value for Skill Points (i.e., to give people who play a lot more benefits). It's a good point, but we haven't sorted that out yet. Thanks for your patience.

I'm just glancing at the hand... but if I'm not mistaken the AI is getting over 5 to 1 pot odds with two cards to come. With those odds and a lot of potential draws out there (i.e., if his opponent is one a draw he may be ahead now) -- it doesn't look like a horrible call to me.

Who owns SkillBet?

How do players know you won't run off with money like LTE?

Here are the primary owners: https://www.skillbet.com/about.php

I'm sorry, but I don't know what LTE is.

Never played on LTE but its a poker site that ran off with the players money.

I'd have more faith in SkillBet though. They devised a entirely new way to play poker, not just a rehash of the old online poker model that's already been deemed a no no. Also the company is a Nevada LLC, not Costa Rica, Gibraltar, Phillipines, Russia etc etc. Not to say those companies aren't legit but when you set up a International to take on US traffic it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out something might be amiss.

I was approved for a small cash out at 1:30 am on 11/29. lets see how long it takes and if I have no problem cashing it. I will let everyone know.

What would that prove? FTP had cash outs for years without incident until BF, and then the house of cards fell down. Look, I just think that given all of the shady (and illegal acts) done by companies in this industry, the public should be VERY wary. That is not an indictment of Skillbet. For all I know they are a bunch of Boyscouts, but I don't take anything at face value anymore. What a company spokeman posts on a forum that they underwrite with ad dollars is hardly unbiased info. People should expect and proof should be provided that this is truly legal, that funds are segregated, and that everything is above board. Words and opinion are meaningless. If that makes me a troll, so be it. This will be my last post (unless the mods delete it) goodbye and good luck! OOPs, poker is a game of skill..............

We get it you don't trust the site or any online poker, but I am sure other people are interested in if the cash outs work at least for one person so I will keep the poker community updated with mine.

I agree, most of us are just looking for a way to play poker online without worrying it will take a month to withdraw.

https://www.skillbet.com/vs/Priptonite

Just waiting on my withdrawal.Broke even but personally I won't be playing on here anymore. The "random" CPU is just beyond frustrating. I mean I open shove 50bb. Jacks call (standard) then a5 and 22 calls??? Or open shove 50bb and j10, qj, q10 is calling? I originally liked the concept but the bots just play so outrageous that I can't tolerate it any longer. Best of luck to everyone

Just one additional note. The last 5 challenges I played my
Opp won 16,16,17,17,17 hands. How many stretches can people show me they played 150 hands of 6 max and won 83 hands? So the concept was cool the easy deposit was a plus but just something seems off.

Here's what we've done to date. We modeled 500 real money human players -- some tight, some super loose, etc. We could have all AI play super tight, very good, etc.

I think we should tighten them up (because no one is bothered when AI folds -- but people seem to hate bad calls). We've been thinking about doing it, and your post helps us. Thanks!

I don't follow. You are referring to the # of hands they won (not the amount they won)?

Agreed. I started playing a few weeks ago and the loose play sucks. Take your example. If you open shove kings against the hands you listed here you go:

KsKh= 43.54%
Ah5h=24.44%
2c2d=13.91%
JsJd=17.73%

So I'm an underdog to the field at this point. I'm done.............

The loose play of AI (on some tables -- and not others) is there to be exploited by whomever can figure out how.

However, we are persuaded to tighten them up... It's in process!

Thank you for the feedback.

Don't tighten them up too much -- poker rooms and sites in general make the mistake of catering too much to all the nits (because they whine the loudest) out there to the detriment of the majority of the casual players who don't care enough to post/complain.

Seriously. This argument to tighten the bots up is the "I cant beat micro stakes because people play too bad". Sounds like a few bad players complaining.

I disagree. The loose play doesn't remind of the micro stakes, it reminds me of donks in a freeroll. If I'm playing tight agressive and open shove oop with pocket kings, why the bleep is 22 or ace rag, JQ off suit calling? It's simply pitting my strong dominant hand against random cards making me an underdog in a 4 way pot.

i do not understand why would l want to compete against computers

Here's the way it goes. Let's say you and I are going to compete against each other in SkillBet.

We both play the same hand against the same computer opponents. We are dealt the same cards. If you win $10 with AQ, but I only win $6... then you outplayed me to the tune of $4 and I owe you $4.

A lot of people like it because it's legal and plays fast. Another favorite is that when you fold and I play -- you can watch me in real time -- hoping I lose (because if I lose you win).

Just curious, why are you open shoving KK. I understand you don't want to be called in 4 spots, but aren't there better ways to play it other than the open shove.

Personally I like playing the computers. After a few games it becomes a lot more fun trying to figure out what kind of AI you are facing.