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this hand doesn't make sense this hand doesn't make sense

02-13-2013 , 02:58 PM
Player 1 Transcript

**** History for game 5139126 ****
Ace Picante - 2/13/13 01:49:48 PM
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players: 6
Seat 1: Player 1 (50)
Seat 3: Player 3 (50)
Seat 5: Player 5 (50)
Seat 7: riverrunner4 (50)
Seat 9: Player 9 (50)
Seat 10: Player 10 (50)
Player 5 posts small blind 0.5
riverrunner4 posts big blind 1
Player 9 folds
Player 10 raises 3 [to 3]
Player 1 folds
Player 3 folds
Player 5 folds
riverrunner4 all in 49
Player 10 all in 47
* Flop is dealt [Qd,7d,9h]
* Turn is dealt [8h]
* River is dealt [Js]
Vying for pot #1 (100.5): riverrunner4 Player 10
riverrunner4 shows [Kc,Ac] Ace-High
Player 10 shows [Jd,Ah] Pair of Jacks
Player 10 wins 100.5 from the Main pot

Player 2 Transcript

**** History for game 5139126 ****
Ace Picante - 2/13/13 01:49:48 PM
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players: 6
Seat 1: Player 1 (50)
Seat 3: Player 3 (50)
Seat 5: Player 5 (50)
Seat 7: slothy25 (50)
Seat 9: Player 9 (50)
Seat 10: Player 10 (50)
Player 5 posts small blind 0.5
slothy25 posts big blind 1
Player 9 folds
Player 10 raises 3 [to 3]
Player 1 folds
Player 3 folds
Player 5 folds
slothy25 raises 7 [to 8]
Player 10 folds
Vying for pot #1 (11.5): slothy25
slothy25 shows [Kc,Ac] Ace-High
slothy25 wins 11.5 from the Main pot



How does a raise to 8 get a fold but a shove gets a call?

The outcome sure upsets me. But I just cant understand why the AJ would call 50bb but fold 8 bb after putting in 3.
02-13-2013 , 04:45 PM
the bot is probably thinking the raise to 8 indicates strength. Where as a monster hand wouldnt shove 50bb over a 3bb raise.


thats just how it looks to me. I would give more respect to a 8bb raise rather than some 50bb 3-bet


it could be argued that the 8bb raise could be called however
02-13-2013 , 05:18 PM
that is a valid point, just surprised they folded to the 3b to 8.

Saw some interesting hands today like J10ss calling a blank shove aipf.

But also the computer folded AK, they bet 3 on the button and me from BB shoved JJ. Weird seeing that fold.
02-13-2013 , 06:05 PM
i'm pretty sure its because they use randomization with parts of their range in just about every situation. i.e. vs. a 3bet with a hand like AJ it will sometimes call, sometimes raise, and sometimes fold. any time you and your opponent use a different betsize you get a different roll on any plays where the bot uses randomization.

edit: probably more accurate to say that you get a different roll any time those frequencies change and that frequencies change based on bet sizing.

Last edited by DaycareInferno; 02-13-2013 at 06:16 PM.
02-14-2013 , 03:40 AM
@ Knumbnuts4

Yo,

can I ask you something? Why do you shove there? You have a monster and you want to see some action, a call, a 4bet, whatever, why do you shove?
02-14-2013 , 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StayKul
@ Knumbnuts4

Yo,

can I ask you something? Why do you shove there? You have a monster and you want to see some action, a call, a 4bet, whatever, why do you shove?
Because you can get 50 bbs in pre against a spazzbot with a dominated hand.... it's often correct in this game if you have a read on the bot that they call shoves light.
It worked beautifully he just happened to get sucked out on.
02-14-2013 , 12:32 PM
no offense, but don't want to discuss strategy I use.
02-15-2013 , 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knumbnuts4
no offense, but don't want to discuss strategy I use.
Yo,

no problem man, I understand

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

      
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