the "serious gamers" (i consider myself one) used to love d2 for a few reason.

The sexy super random loot, the trading, and then PvPing vs sickest guys on the server.

The grind wasnt bad cause you knew you were there to get stronger by getting insane loot and then trading/hustling people and then killing others with it.

At least, thats how I always saw it.

The trading will kinda be dead tho that sucks imo.

I don't know about this. Maybe for some classes or builds this is true. I loved playing my assassin in D2 from a pure gameplay perspective (I never played multiplayer and don't really care about loot that much [i know wtf am i doing playing diablo]). I didn't have a great build though, it was a weird melee/trap hybrid build that didnt really make any sense. But it was very fun, challenging, and dare I say took some skill to play. I think teleport sorcs in d2 also were quite skillful. I think, generally speaking, that in action RPGs if you want to find a build that takes skill to pull off you can find it and play it.

... teleport... sorcs? -.-

The more I read this thread the more I am disappointed with how games are so boring. At this point, it just seems Blizzard is catering to the 15 year old demographic instead of the core gamers that have been buying their games for the past 15 years. After WC3, Blizzard has really lost my respect in the field of competitive gaming.

Been listening to d2 soundtracks at work this morning. <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO_yY...eature=related

On the contrary, I seem to be one of the only ones who understand diablo.

We aren't teenagers anymore.

Diablo 3 is going to cater to the same age group as Diablo 2 did. NOT the same players that originally played Diablo 2, who are now 10 years older.

i had 3 stars and a gold bar/name thing on bnet for the original diablo

where is my d3 beta invite darnit

also a lot of you guys are huge nits

Did anyone ever figure out what the gem does in D2 Bnet?

I think I've been a general defender of D3 ITT. I see it for what it is. A mindless timekiller RPG hack and slash with shiny eye candy that was meant to be enjoyed for what it is.

Because it's Blizzard, they will add some level of complexity to the system that keeps it interesting for the more sophisticated crowd, but at its most basic, it's just a clicky monster killing game.

That's what Diablo was. That's what Diablo 2 was. That's what Diablo 7 will be.

I think a lot of the naysayers ITT are bitching just to bitch. The color palette, the music, the animations and graphics. I mean, really? I understand that there is a "whole package" effect to D2 that makes it what it is.

But I equate those kinds of complaints to stuff like the anti-MBS and auto-mining crowd from SC2's early days. Claiming that such UI/game engine additions will kill the game. If you want to play Diablo 2, go play Diablo 2!

There are a LOT and I mean a LOT of people who prefer to play Civilization 4 over the 5th installment because of some design changes in the series.

D3 coming out isn't going to shut down the D2 servers.

Pretty sure it's confirmed to do nothing. Also I read somewhere that Blizzard customer service explicitly asked the D3 team not to include a chat gem because they were sick of responding to emails about it.

yes, really ffs. How can you not understand this? You yourself intimated that the game isn't super deep, so yes, the eyecandy represents a significant chunk of the game.

sure lets go play a 13 year old game that we've played for a thousand hours, full of hacks and almost nobody to play with

^^^ mods delete. no way am i clicking that

The link is OK, as far as I can tell

just throwing it out there, the d2 ladder resets sept 28 :P