The Theory Thread

[ham on rye]

hey alt,

"try a little tenderness" has a pretty interesting progression for a pop song, and is obviously an absolute classic.

a study of some of james jamerson's great bass lines would be really illuminating, he was so gifted at bringing voice leading and phrasing ideas from all different genres into his playing, i love his little chromatic flourishes and his ability to blend melody and rhythm. GOAT RIP

i think you kind of have to cover the progression of southern folk, country, delta blues, etc into early rock and roll... i'm reading levon helm's autobiography right now and he has some great stuff in there about witnessing that evolution firsthand growing up in arkansas in the 40's and 50's

prince, because prince is a ****ing genius

current stuff, i think the drummer for the national is really good and interesting, most of their stuff is not super fascinating from a tonal perspective but he's an example of a drummer working within the rock genre who is able to get outside the box somewhat

radiohead. not sure what exactly but definitely radiohead.

i have always personally liked rock bands that incorporate unusual time signatures... whether it be fairly popular stuff or somewhat more obscure. could do a class on that.

[prana]

Originally Posted by Busking Freak

looking forward to this.

OK. I had some stuff come up so I'm going to be busy for a bit I think but I'll try and organize it and we could start from the beginning and work through it or something if I can find the score jpgs online or something.

[jmitchell42]

Originally Posted by prana

OK. I had some stuff come up so I'm going to be busy for a bit I think but I'll try and organize it and we could start from the beginning and work through it or something if I can find the score jpgs online or something.

[deuceFive25]

Originally Posted by ham on rye

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i have always personally liked rock bands that incorporate unusual time signatures... whether it be fairly popular stuff or somewhat more obscure. could do a class on that.

I do too. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Zappa and Rush come to mind.

[MSchu18]

Without a discussion about micro tonality, and theory thread is useless...

I've been micro tuning my guitar for years despite the basic layout of a guitar being based on a western scale.

[sards]

Originally Posted by MSchu18

Without a discussion about micro tonality, and theory thread is useless...

I've been micro tuning my guitar for years despite the basic layout of a guitar being based on a western scale.

More details, please...

[TBobLP]

Originally Posted by MSchu18

Without a discussion about micro tonality, and theory thread is useless...

I've been micro tuning my guitar for years despite the basic layout of a guitar being based on a western scale.

Most people that do this don't actually benefit from what they are doing or understand why they are doing it. They just see "hey, this is something that makes me different ill do it". Let's hear some of your pieces in this micro tuning
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[TBobLP]

Id like to further impart my opinion.

You say this thread is USELESS without discussion without microtonality (which is largely a gimmick in western music). I think the onus is on you to prove it matters

[Cometishian]

Originally Posted by TBobLP

Id like to further impart my opinion.

You say this thread is USELESS without discussion without microtonality (which is largely a gimmick in western music). I think the onus is on you to prove it matters

just ignore that stupid comment.

[gitfiddle]

99.9% of western microtuners are tone-deaf folks that use mathematics to assimilate the division of an octave and then compose nonsense to validate their hypothesis.

And lol @ tuning 3 strings a 1/4 step sharp and thinking it's ultra-modern. Yeah, let's discuss the theory behind playing a guitar out of tune.

[ham on rye]

Originally Posted by MSchu18

Without a discussion about micro tonality, and theory thread is useless...

I've been micro tuning my guitar for years despite the basic layout of a guitar being based on a western scale.

gene wilder sarcastic patronizing face meme dot gif imo

[MSchu18]

Warning... thread populated by westernized pun jabs with limited surface area.

[sards]

Originally Posted by MSchu18

Warning... thread populated by westernized pun jabs with limited surface area.

Okay, so why don't you enlighten us? How do you tune your guitar, and what sorts of things does micro tuning enable you to play?

[prana]

Sorry to hijack from the popcorn worthy microtuning discussion.

I haven't had time to go through all that sheet music and organize it much really yet. All my homework assignments and crap are in there too. Man, could I use a refresher on a lot of stuff.

What I was thinking though was starting at the very beginning and working through just like we did in college. The music history/listening courses basically went along with the theory stuff, etc. so we could have stuff to listen to as it is being discussed. People could ask questions, etc. There are definitely some people in this forum that could answer any questions we would have and I think would be a great source of information and learning. The beginning stuff may be pretty easy but may help a lot of people who didn't take courses like these when more complicated stuff is discussed. It is also nice to listen to pieces featuring the theories when they were first being practiced. I wish I had done more critical listening like this in college. I really want to learn a lot more about composing etc.

I'm not talking about starting at chant btw. Like baroque era maybe? That may be too easy for some of you guys but I'm a drummer who until recently hadn't really touched a piano or thought about theory since about 2005 so I probably forgot a lot of stuff and could use some refreshing of my memories.

[TBobLP]

Originally Posted by MSchu18

Warning... thread populated by westernized pun jabs with limited surface area.

lol