Feedback Thread - Guitar

[DiegoArmando]

Yeah I wasn't sure if you were trying to level me or something. Like you were using a guitar analogy to imply I am a wanker. Haha that's decent THC paranoia perhaps.

[fanapathy]

Originally Posted by General Tsao

i was talking to you, somehow i thought diego had posted that video. but yes, both comments were to you!

Alright awesome. In that case I think you hit right on spot with #1 as well. I haven't been playing that long, it's been on and off with the zzz G/C/D/Em songs but put in more effort on electric the last couple months and started using metronome recently.

I have read everywhere it's bad to anchor, so I have consciously tried not to. As a result, I might be subconsciously anchoring exactly in that way instead. All comments are very appreciated and thanks for advice.

Just popped the wine and inspired by DBJ started playing the easiest song ever, "Before I Forget".

Bring on more songs guys and girls

[General Tsao]

btw look at the first post ITT, look at his right arm and then look at yours in your video. DBL is resting it on the bicep area. that's a good comparison there to explain exactly what i meant.

[Low Key]

Tsao, did you use your pinky once in that whole solo?

[DblBarrelJ]

Diego, based on your engineering experience, what do you feel is the superior way to record an acoustic guitar?

Any tips for acoustic players like me?

My guitar is acoustic/electric, I typically just record pure acoustic and allow the mic on the camera to do the work.

Any tips if I wanted to utilize Adobe Audition to record my acoustic into my computer?

How would I go about recording both my singing and playing? Would it need to be done separately or can it be done simultaneously?

[General Tsao]

Originally Posted by Low Key

Tsao, did you use your pinky once in that whole solo?

lol no, i come from the eric clapton school of lead guitar

nah i actually have no problem using my pinky unlike Him but generally i find it to be unneeded in pentatonic adventures.

[prana]

I liked that Weeps solo. Just watched this one recently:



heart prince

[DiegoArmando]

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Diego, based on your engineering experience, what do you feel is the superior way to record an acoustic guitar?

Any tips for acoustic players like me?

My guitar is acoustic/electric, I typically just record pure acoustic and allow the mic on the camera to do the work.

Any tips if I wanted to utilize Adobe Audition to record my acoustic into my computer?

How would I go about recording both my singing and playing? Would it need to be done separately or can it be done simultaneously?

Well, first thing is first: you can't polish a turd. So get it right at source, obv.

I think I can see a condenser hanging above the kit? Use that if you don't already.

It depends on what your aim is. Like how professional does it need to be?

Record the vox separately. Close mic the guitar with the condenser, near the hole but not right in front of it, about 6 inches away, and use something like a 58 to sing into. Record simultaneously.

Experiment with mic positions on the guitar. That's really important. See where you get the best sound. I assume from the gear you're not alone. So get someone to play while you test out different mic positions. I couldnt stress enough how important it is to experiment with your set up until you find what works best for the track.

I never had any real hard and fast rules. It was always a case of finding the best way to get the best sound for the track.

You can record the pickup into another track through a DI and perhaps use it in the mix somehow. Again, experiment. One thing to watch out for with that is phasing: you may need to delay the DI a touch as it is quicker to go down than the mic is.

How much do you understand sound properties and its mannerisms?

The room is important too. If you want a cleaner, less airy sound into the desk to work with in a sequencer, put a rug down and record it in a dead ish space.

I once had access to a 12x48ish attic fully panelled and fell in love with the sound of the Spanish guitar in it. Where you record is really important and should be considered when you think about how you want your song to sound.

Tell me what gear you have, whether you plan on getting more and what the room is like and maybe I could make more specific suggestions.

I'm not at all familiar with the adobe programme. I used logic and pro tools. Logic was better but definitely much more difficult to get the hang of. What sound interface are you using?

To sum up: as a default, use the condenser on the acoustic and another sm58 type mic to sing into at the same time. Experiment and see what works.

[DblBarrelJ]

Wow. That's alot of good ****.

I've never really recorded anything. I always assumed it was typically done by plugging the guitar into some sort of rack system that then processed through the console.

I'll definitely try miking.

So the plug on the guitar, don't use it at all when recording?

[DblBarrelJ]

As for what to get, I really don't know. I sold my Strat and a Fender American bass and that Alvarez to buy a Taylor 414ce.

The Seagull in some of the videos belongs to a friend.

This is the best video I have showing equipment available to me at present.



I know nothing about recording stuff. My friend's setup here is what he uses to basically run an open mic night at a coffee shop, looks like your run of the mill public address equipment, small 8 channel mono powered TASCAM board, big Yamaha speakers, a few microphones I know nothing about and a couple monitors.

What I'd ideally like to do is get a setup that would allow me to record myself playing and singing alone, so I'd guess 2 microphones? And the equipment to put that audio on the computer and edit it and have the recording quality sound somewhat professional.

As for room space, I've got a 60'x40' unfinished space in my basement that I'd be willing to put some money into as far as wood paneling/sound proofing etc

[Audience of One]

Originally Posted by RecapThenRelapse

IDK. Wut do u look like



Sorry about language

<3 omg amazing!

[DiegoArmando]

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Wow. That's alot of good ****.

I've never really recorded anything. I always assumed it was typically done by plugging the guitar into some sort of rack system that then processed through the console.

I'll definitely try miking.

So the plug on the guitar, don't use it at all when recording?

You want to capture what you can hear in front of the guitar and what's coming out of your face so micing up each sound source achieves that. The idea is to capture the performance. Plugging the guitar in can give you another channel to work with (to mix into the final song for whatever part of it you like) although If you're a beginner, I'd say forget that till you get the hang of using microphones, as setting delays to deal with phasing would probably complicate things more than necessary. But it's something to consider and if you wanted to record playing and singing at different times you could try it.

Make sure you're singing into the mic close up. I'd recommend a shure sm58 for that. You can hit people over the head with them when bar brawls break out then continue singing into them when sanity returns.

For the guitar, get a nice condenser like a Neumann if you have the cash. Otherwise something like a rode condenser is fine. Probably rode is better for you but i just wanted to say the word Neumann. Of course there are different models but budget and objectives play a part.

If you want to get into recording yourself semi seriously, you should do your homework. It's not a simple task but there are some basic things that go a long way to helping you get stuff down.

I recommend this article to get you started. Sound on sound is a great publication and I used it a lot for my college work. Read it and see how much you understand. If you have any questions about it I'll try to answer them here.

As far as your basement is concerned, think of acoustics in 2 ways: sound treatment and sound proofing.

How much sound proofing is down to your noise restrictions. If you like to crank up the PA till dawn and that's a problem, then it's very expensive to make it happen. If it doesn't bother anyone then you're jamming, so to speak. So wherever you are on that continuum will determine what you need to do sound proofing wise.

I designed a basement studio sound proofing plan in a residential area that allowed us to have a full band going whenever we felt like it, which generally took us till dawn. It's a lot of work and a lot of money but it's worth it when you're looking through the glass at 4am knowing the kit is being battered and the neighbours above are dreaming of shagging each other on quiet deserted beaches.

Sound treatment is dependent on what sound you're after. As a start I'd say a wooden, non parallel (as much as possible - as many surfaces as possible) room is great. You can then use rugs on the floor and maybe thick curtains on the walls to give you the option of a live or dead room depending on what sounds best at the time.

[RecapThenRelapse]

Thanx Audience Of One!

I srsly didnt kno DeigoArmando but im glad hes not mad!

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[spacegod]

Did anyone else open this thread thinking it would be about how to generate/control amp feedback?

[Mitch Evans]

Originally Posted by RecapThenRelapse

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One guess would be fapping to a few vids posted ITT, but that's just a guess.