Yeah I will but don't have time to at the moment. Will report back later.

Glad I found this thread. I'm a self taught drummer and have been playing for about 12 years. Im looking to get into EMP. I have messed around on garageband a few times but havent dug deep into how to use it.

I play a little bit of guitar, piano and ukulele but my skill level is nowhere near to what I am with drumming. My influences are Bonobo, Boards of Canada, The Album Leaf and usually listen to ambient when Im not listening to electronic.

If anyone could give me tips on where to start, free softwares, anything that would help me understanding what this is all about I'd really appreciate it. Here's a song I created on garageband this past weekend. Don't hate too much.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ8OmzcVTVI

Love Bonobo. Him and Blockhead are what got me into producing in the first place. As a former drummer myself, Bonobo has a special place in my musical library.

I didn't listen to the original song you covered, but I liked what you made.

As for tips on where to start, it's difficult because everyone is different in how they learn best. For me, my best friend had been producing for a couple of years before I actually got into it. I would watch him and he would explain what he was doing.

Him and I are both pretty musically inclined, although he is a WAY better guitar player than I am, I think it's a big head start for anyone to have at least some sort of rhythm or musical talent.

I obtained a free copy of Reason 5 from a friend so I was pretty lucky in that regard as daw's are pretty expensive. I learned best by just doing. Trial and error really. See what works and try to figure out why it works. Also a big resource in learning for me is YouTube. I can't express this enough. Watch videos of other people doing what your trying to do. If you can't figure out how to produce a certain sound you may want, look it up. There are endless resources for producers on the internet and I fully suggest finding as many as you can.

One in particular for me because I'm using Reason is boyinaband.com.
Although Dave (boyinaband) is INCREDIBLY annoying and sometimes I have to mute him and just watch what he's doing, he taught me more in a month of watching his videos than I had tried to learn on my own in 2-3 months. There are plenty of tutorials out there from people using all sorts of daw's, so whatever one you decide to use, I'm sure you will be able to find tutorials.

Good luck and don't hesitate to post any tunes in this thread.

I dug it, nice work. Maybe I'm hearing a little too much of the room if I was trying to think of a criticism. Close mic'ing can help with that. Taking a line-in of the mic'd guitar stuff might allow you more options later in the mix.

If you wanted to take it a step further, I'd start by tweaking the guitar tone a little bit with some simple eq/compression.

On the topic of boards of canada - I have a dave smith tetra and someone designed a really good smeared piano patch that sounds exactly like some of their stuff. Really cool sound

Start here IMO:

http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

nice thread.
i have 2 official releases on beatport but i didn't continue to be involved since i had job issues etc.
last year i created these two babies but didn't release them on any label.

ableton+native instruments=da nuts

genre:electro/techno/experimental

http://soundcloud.com/fake-rebel

That 2nd track is pretty cool man. Post it on the techno thread in 4L too.

Very cool songs, a bit outside the box

What exactly goes into getting a song onto beatport?
Something like you need a label and an official release and such?

Which parts of Komplete 8 are the nuttiest to you?

2nd one is cooler i think , thanks.

getting a song into beatport is all about emailing a bunch of record labels with a demo.
you dont expect to get any money out of it. a friend of mine made some huge hits played by marcus schultz, he got like 50$ for each so its only a hobby.
if ur into it be sure to email specialized labels for exact genre. for example, i sent the 2nd song to some prominent electro labels, feedback i got was that it rocked but they couldn't have it in their catalog cause it didn't match exactly their style.


komplete 8..i love them all, but the most harsh electro sounds come from massive. also reaktor has some crazy sound machines. battery is just another drum machine but its good and fm/absynth are o.k but not something special.

I'd say the way to make your money then is on the live scene, just like other bands. If your stuff is being played by dj's then you could make decent money playing live. A respected producer could make upwards of 600 euros a gig and you'll pay 5k to hire Richie Hawtin just to dj.

I really have no idea what the most popular tracks on the dancefloor make from record sales.

almost nothing you are right about djing.

Thats cool. Real instruments in EDM = The nuts.

I have been playing around mixing in Ableton for a couple of years and recently started trying my hand at production. I quickly realised I knew very little of the technical skills you need to make your stuff sound ok. Keeping things in frequency groups, avoiding muddying the bottom end with unnecessary low frequencies, avoiding transient clashes, all the delay, fill and build techniques and how to go about having an efficient workflow to make production easier. Most importantly had zero clue about music theory, keeping things in key, chord progression etc.

So I decided to do a course and am just coming to the end of it now. I feel like my production skills are so much better now, and I think have always had a good ear for sounds, but still lacking in actual music theory, and certainly clueless on real instruments.

If ever you are interested in a collab for ****s and giggles, or anyone reading this thread for that matter, feel free to pm me and who knows we maybe could do something interesting.

Id be particularly interested in anyone that can play instruments/understands music theory and can send me samples and loops to use. Id be happy to trade any knowledge ive picked up in using ableton to make tracks.

Just a hobby, but its really fun to get better and I love actually having something to show for my spare time rather than just a hangover

I am pretty much in love with writing melodies. I do not like working on drums as much.

I'm trying to figure out how to do gating in FL studio, specifically when triggered to a key/button on my midi keyboard. Basically, I want to tap a key and have the synth be cut on and off to my heart's/rhythm's desire. When I try linking my controller to channel on/off, and I cut it off to try to get a gating effect, the sound cuts off but doesn't turn back on when I press the key again. It has to wait for the loop (and piano roll note for the synth) to hit again.

Any help? I'm sure this is hella muddy, but I can answer questions if people have them.
I'm trying to use this on saw/grimy synths to make a NERO-like effect (or tons of people in bass music/electro house/glitch ) use.

Thanks, and I'm all about collabos too.

I know what you mean but cant help as I dont use a midi controller.

Having to actually play notes scares me lol. Automation ftw. I would just use a gate plug in and set the timing/parameters to what I wanted.

I know sometimes you lose that natural groove you get from a human playing, but there are ways around that to trick your ears.

u can use a sidechained compressor for this but it has to get the on/off signal from another instr like the kick or some other synth.