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Cross-pollinating genres.. Does anyone else do this? Cross-pollinating genres.. Does anyone else do this?

02-25-2013 , 01:58 AM
Being a piano player and a metal-head, this is the kinda thing I do when I'm bored. Does anyone else write/record material with contrasting genres/styles?

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02-25-2013 , 02:52 AM
trans siberian style. i love that.
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02-25-2013 , 02:04 PM
Right on, thanks... I've been learning L.v.B's Sonata no. 14 and decided to fire up Cubase and practice it to a click. Then I figured, hell, may as well record this. Then after numerous takes, got one recorded. Hearing the click made me want to put drums to it, so I programmed a part (Drumkit From Hell samples using FL Studio 8) and then tracked some guitars. Fun times.

I'm usually not in to that style of metal, as far as the obnoxiously fast 32nd notes and blast beats. But a buddy of mine turned me on to a group who does this exact thing (classical/metal) and I guess it kinda permeated my brain... They're called Fleshgod Apocolypse. Dudes look like 18th century composers that just rose from the grave...

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02-28-2013 , 02:44 PM
Good ole Ludwig Van
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02-28-2013 , 02:45 PM
Whenever I hear the ninth I get very ill
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02-28-2013 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
Whenever I hear the ninth I get very ill
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02-28-2013 , 09:54 PM
phenomenal album:
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03-02-2013 , 04:33 PM
Mixing genres is kind of an old hat (ELP & various other progressive bands), although, done well it can be exiting.
Here's Ritchie Blackmore thing I've always liked.
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08-24-2013 , 02:53 AM
Back on the mixing genres kick, here's a cover I did of Gotye's "Sombody That I Used to Know" in an industrial-rock vein. The idea was to get kind of an old NIN, Wumpscut, Skinny Puppy-ish vibe going on with a pop song. Still not sure whether or not I dig the end product. Not my best effort mixing-wise, but it was pretty tough to tame with so many distorted instruments and the guitars being in drop-A# ...O_o

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08-24-2013 , 06:40 AM
Mr Bungle was all over the map and really good at it. Middle Eastern stuff, metal, noise, jazz, horn music, pop, circus music, 60s soundtrack, ska, surf. It was obnoxious but you never knew what you were going to get from one minute to the next. I never thought saxophones and metal guitars would ever work together but they made it happen.
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08-24-2013 , 12:22 PM
Love Mr. Bungle... Big Mike Patton fan here.
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08-25-2013 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aqalung...
Mixing genres is kind of an old hat (ELP & various other progressive bands), although, done well it can be exiting.
+1

One of my favorites (and I've probably posted this in this forum before) is a duo called Black Violin. 2 guys who dropped out of Juilliard and did their own thing.



This 2nd one is probably my favorite, even though the Brandenburg is easily more recognizable.



Now all I wanna do is sit around and watch Animusic...
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08-25-2013 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonzirra
Mr Bungle was all over the map and really good at it. Middle Eastern stuff, metal, noise, jazz, horn music, pop, circus music, 60s soundtrack, ska, surf. It was obnoxious but you never knew what you were going to get from one minute to the next. I never thought saxophones and metal guitars would ever work together but they made it happen.
They were such a phenomenal band. I remember reading a really old metal magazine when their self titled album came out, and just about every death metal band member had that album on their top 5 of the year list. I rushed out and got it as soon as I could. Love it to this day.

Another band that mixed styles well, and not in a corny way, was Candiria, my all-time favorite band. They started out with NYHC and metal, then branched out into mixing in jazz, hip-hop (not in a nu-metal way), and other styles, but still always sounded like themselves. Even the heavy stuff was played in a way that no one else was doing, or even able to do. Ken Schalk is my 2nd favorite drummer of all time. Has all of the chops of the main greats, but an almost unmatchable sense of groove and creativity.

Here are a few songs that show a bit of what they were capable of. If you wanna dig deeper, check out "300% Density" and "Process of Self Development"











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10-07-2013 , 11:07 AM
Mr Bungle was made for internet attention spans. Like it or hate it it's certainly never boring.
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01-14-2014 , 11:29 AM
Cross-pollinating would be more appropriate for Botany, Ecology, Horticulture, Agriculture.

Cross Over and Fusion are two musically appropriate words for mixing styles.

The first guy I'm aware of who explicitly Crossed-Over (Folk and Classical)



Another popular guy


His protege


And on we go


FF to 6:25 for awesome Dub Reggae/Prog Rock Cross Over

















John Zorn produced Mr.Bungles self titled album. You hear his influence from their earlier recordings which was basically ska rock cross over. Clinton Mckinnon said they were essentially Fishbone before Zorn




SC3 is Trey, Trevor, Clinton (bungle) a bunch of guys from Estradasphere and friends. Traditional Arabic, Film theme, Extreme Metal, Acid Rock, Electronica and a whole bunch of other fun genres


In other words "cross pollinating" styles standard as ****.

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01-14-2014 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mugzejj

In other words "cross pollinating" styles standard as ****.
I'm fully aware that many amazing artists have done this kind of thing, and wasn't suggesting that I was re-inventing the wheel. The question was directed to other musicians on this subforum, whether or not they blend styles, and if so then post your work here. It wasn't suggesting, "zomg I must be like the first musician to think of this!!!"

Also, lol @ semantics nitting
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01-15-2014 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CandyKreep
I'm fully aware that many amazing artists have done this kind of thing, and wasn't suggesting that I was re-inventing the wheel. The question was directed to other musicians on this subforum, whether or not they blend styles, and if so then post your work here. It wasn't suggesting, "zomg I must be like the first musician to think of this!!!"

Also, lol @ semantics nitting
Don't get your knickers bent up.
If you want to sound educated and not like a ****** then use correct terminology.
Would you trust a poker coach who called a flush a 5 suit and a two pair a dbl dbl?

Didn't accuse assume you were trying to reinvent the wheel or come up with something new.
Just say'n its standard as **** for as long as music exists.

Here is some more cross polinations 4 u











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01-15-2014 , 09:08 AM
sea chantey metal and sea chantey hiphop.

awesome x-pol's

My new MC name will be x-pol...
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01-16-2014 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mugzejj
If you want to sound educated and not like a ****** then use correct terminology.
Both of the terms you suggested can be misconstrued in terms of my OP which is why they never entered my mind. When the vast majority of people hear the term fusion, they automatically think of jazz fusion... Weather Report, Chick Corea, etc. When people hear Cross Over they think any style that starts in a smaller-demographic audience to then reach a larger one. Neither of those interpretations (which many will arrive at reading those terms) fit the OP.

Also, your poker analogy is terrible. You're comparing poker which has static definitions to music which doesn't. One could call Tool rock, progressive, or metal and be correct in all three instances.
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01-17-2014 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CandyKreep
Both of the terms you suggested can be misconstrued in terms of my OP which is why they never entered my mind. When the vast majority of people hear the term fusion, they automatically think of jazz fusion... Weather Report, Chick Corea, etc. When people hear Cross Over they think any style that starts in a smaller-demographic audience to then reach a larger one. Neither of those interpretations (which many will arrive at reading those terms) fit the OP.

Also, your poker analogy is terrible. You're comparing poker which has static definitions to music which doesn't. One could call Tool rock, progressive, or metal and be correct in all three instances.
I resign.

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01-17-2014 , 08:20 PM
Apologies for my testiness. If anything you linked some awesome vids which are quite pertinent to this thread.
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02-23-2015 , 12:45 AM
Revisiting my obsession with genre mixing (as well as my obsession with Beethoven)... Here's a little recording I did. It's a portion of LvB's Sonata No. 8 in C minor played on a Yamaha MM8 with kind of a synthy, moog bass vibe, with strings and drum-and-bass style backing... Beethoven meets electronica.

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04-12-2015 , 12:46 PM
not me but


also symbion project
https://symbionproject.bandcamp.com/...2nd-movement-2
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04-12-2015 , 09:46 PM
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I love the tones in this, but the arrangement is a little over-the-top for me.
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