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Old 02-02-2012, 01:45 AM   #51
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Re: Beginners gutar corner.

This stuff here imo

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Old 02-02-2012, 01:46 AM   #52
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gonna go get some strings tomorrow and get started. not sure i will need much cleaner stuff. like i said, not too dirty, just dusty and i can get that off with a good old shirt.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:46 AM   #53
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make sure you only go up and down on the neck, with the grain, not side to side against the grain. Your fretboard is rosewood right? Don't use it on maple.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:50 AM   #54
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just out of curiosity, approximately the action should be the highest in the middle of the string right? since that is where the string will vibrate the most? also, about what should that be without fine tuning it to a certain player? mine at the 7th fret is about 2.5 mm on the low 3 and 1.5 on the high e. will get into that book more when i do it, but just curious about it before hand. should it be the same or different since the string will fluctuate more on the lower strings.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:51 AM   #55
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make sure you only go up and down on the neck, with the grain, not side to side against the grain. Your fretboard is rosewood right? Don't use it on maple.
i have no idea what my neck is made from tbh.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:39 AM   #56
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i have no idea what my neck is made from tbh.

Your neck is maple and your fretboard is rosewood iirc.


post a pic and I can rc
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:41 AM   #57
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just out of curiosity, approximately the action should be the highest in the middle of the string right? since that is where the string will vibrate the most? also, about what should that be without fine tuning it to a certain player? mine at the 7th fret is about 2.5 mm on the low 3 and 1.5 on the high e. will get into that book more when i do it, but just curious about it before hand. should it be the same or different since the string will fluctuate more on the lower strings.


These are good questions, and I look forward to someone who knows the answers answering!



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Old 02-02-2012, 04:07 AM   #58
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i got the fender squire kit for $200. included a guitar, amp, music stand, case, and tuner. it needs a good setup and i am working on that, but otherwise has been a great starter tool.
This is the way to go.. I had a squire strat when I was starting out and still have it to this day. I remember my brother learning Kirk Hammett lead licks on the squire when he was on meth lol and I remember he almost destroyed the guitar, threatening to slam it to the ground when he and I were having an argument months later. My bro now has a 1,300.00$ Joe Satriani model Ibanez that he bought when he won 5K in an online poker tourny.

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This is the way to go.. I had a squire strat when I was starting out and still have it to this day. I remember my brother learning Kirk Hammett lead licks on the squire when he was on meth lol and I remember he almost destroyed the guitar, threatening to slam it to the ground when he and I were having an argument months later. My bro now has a 1,300.00$ Joe Satriani model Ibanez that he bought when he won 5K in an online poker tourny.

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Your neck is maple and your fretboard is rosewood iirc.


post a pic and I can rc
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kind of looks like mine. but higher quality i am sure.
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:39 PM   #62
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just out of curiosity, approximately the action should be the highest in the middle of the string right? since that is where the string will vibrate the most? also, about what should that be without fine tuning it to a certain player? mine at the 7th fret is about 2.5 mm on the low 3 and 1.5 on the high e. will get into that book more when i do it, but just curious about it before hand. should it be the same or different since the string will fluctuate more on the lower strings.
Right, the loosest section (the middle) of the string vibrates in the largest circumference. However, this is a continually changing. For example, if you press a string at the 9th fret, now the loosest section of the string is over the 21st fret.

That said, most fret buzz (due to improper action and relief, not shoddy fret crowns) will come from the fret above the one you're playing, as the relief, relatively speaking, is the least at that point.

Being that bass strings (generally speaking for most string sets) are looser than your trebles, you will need a hair more clearance on the bass side if you used a radius setup and your trebles are pushing the threshold for buzz, but it depends on just how much radius - a 14" is more forgiving than a 7.25".

1.5 sounds really good on the E (but measure 12th). You can get lower on the bass, though. I don't ever measure, as there's just too much variance from instrument to instrument, but it's not a bad idea when you're starting out (however, with a plek'd instrument http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG4BOLlKOb4, that would be a whole other ball game and is why I recommended the G&L over the Fender ). It's not just picking and seeing if it buzzes, but you have to make sure it doesn't fret out when you bend.
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:39 PM   #63
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Your neck is maple and your fretboard is rosewood iirc.
And it's got a functioning tremolo bar, amirite?
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:15 PM   #64
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Also, just to be sure, you are talking about measurements from the top of the fret wire to the bottom of the string and not the top of the string?
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And it's got a functioning tremolo bar, amirite?

It does!



yeah mang that's rosewood, you can use steel wool on it. Just go up and down the neck, not side to side against the grain.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:23 PM   #66
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Also, just to be sure, you are talking about measurements from the top of the fret wire to the bottom of the string and not the top of the string?
yup. to bottom of the string. does the fact that they are different mean that the neck might be twisted?
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #67
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Right, the loosest section (the middle) of the string vibrates in the largest circumference. However, this is a continually changing. For example, if you press a string at the 9th fret, now the loosest section of the string is over the 21st fret.

That said, most fret buzz (due to improper action and relief, not shoddy fret crowns) will come from the fret above the one you're playing, as the relief, relatively speaking, is the least at that point.

Being that bass strings (generally speaking for most string sets) are looser than your trebles, you will need a hair more clearance on the bass side if you used a radius setup and your trebles are pushing the threshold for buzz, but it depends on just how much radius - a 14" is more forgiving than a 7.25".

1.5 sounds really good on the E (but measure 12th). You can get lower on the bass, though. I don't ever measure, as there's just too much variance from instrument to instrument, but it's not a bad idea when you're starting out (however, with a plek'd instrument http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG4BOLlKOb4, that would be a whole other ball game and is why I recommended the G&L over the Fender ). It's not just picking and seeing if it buzzes, but you have to make sure it doesn't fret out when you bend.
i think i got all the equipment i need with polishes, lemon oil, steel wool. now it is just up to me to get the guts to start it. eek.
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What kind of acoustic guitar is that in the background?
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yup. to bottom of the string. does the fact that they are different mean that the neck might be twisted?
Sure, but 99.99% of the time it's just a Chinese setup.
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What kind of acoustic guitar is that in the background?
nothing special. it is a sunfire. it plays well though.

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Sure, but 99.99% of the time it's just a Chinese setup.
i can correct that by redoing the setup?
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#0000 steel wool is what you need sir


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Remember to cover up the pickups with masking tape (or equivalent) before using the steel wool. Otherwise, you'll get little steel wool particles in your pickup coils.
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Remember to cover up the pickups with masking tape (or equivalent) before using the steel wool. Otherwise, you'll get little steel wool particles in your pickup coils.
Pro tip
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:39 PM   #73
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Pro tip
def. don't think i am going to need to use the steel wool on the body though. isn't that dirty. just a rag i think will get most of it off, then i have some lizard spit polish. will def keep that in mind for the future though.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:06 AM   #74
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i can correct that by redoing the setup?
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def. don't think i am going to need to use the steel wool on the body though. isn't that dirty. just a rag i think will get most of it off, then i have some lizard spit polish. will def keep that in mind for the future though.
Never use the wool on the body. It's just for the neck and frets, but the tiny shards of wool that fly off the pad stick to the pickups because they are magnetic.
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Never use the wool on the body. It's just for the neck and frets, but the tiny shards of wool that fly off the pad stick to the pickups because they are magnetic.
def didn't seem like that sounded right. good tip. i didn't even think of the pickups being magnetic and steel wool being metal.

thanks everyone. i have all of next week off, so i will definitely have enough time to play with this. kind of nervous, but i have worked on a lot of different instruments, so should be ok.
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