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02-29-2012 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by analoguesounds
On any of those things like your pedals they usually have a master volume and a gain.

On a distortion or overdrive pedal pedal when you increase the gain relative to the main volume you will create different sorts of crunch/distortion. Actually your drive pedal will most likely have "drive" instead of gain.

You can try different combinations of settings to get different sounds. Like low amp main volume settings but high guitar and pedal settings etc.

Just mess about with them till you get sounds you like. There's no real tried and true method in the sense that all guitars, effects, amps, conditions, environment, player etc will produce different results.

What brand is the overdrive pedal?
oh i don't have any pedals. the overdrive button is on the amp.
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03-01-2012 , 12:33 AM
oh sorry my mistake

you can get some cheapo pedals that could be fun

i just bought a couple recently and they are not too bad

they were around $50-70 - you'd probably get them a lot cheaper in the States

Joyo is one that are basically just chinese copies of various mainstream pedal

I have the Crunch Distortion and it's pretty cool

The are metal casings so made pretty solid unlike the usual plastic you get with cheapo effects
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03-01-2012 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by analoguesounds
oh sorry my mistake

you can get some cheapo pedals that could be fun

i just bought a couple recently and they are not too bad

they were around $50-70 - you'd probably get them a lot cheaper in the States

Joyo is one that are basically just chinese copies of various mainstream pedal

I have the Crunch Distortion and it's pretty cool

The are metal casings so made pretty solid unlike the usual plastic you get with cheapo effects
would you go for a distortion one first or what? it really would be just for messing around with though. i don't play well enough to know what to do with one tbh.
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03-01-2012 , 12:53 AM
I think that ibanez would look awesome with the same color scheme as the tele that blkmagik built. GL Gonso and jmitch, keep us updated.
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03-01-2012 , 01:16 AM
@jmitch yeah overdrive or distortion would be a good start

you just need something for a bit of crunch at times - it opens up harmonics and great sounds on your guitar too

sometimes I'll get some crazy feedback going that resonates well in a certain space and it's amazing - there's more to guitars and amps etc then just playing - resonant tones are amazing in my opinion

like the start of say foxy lady is jimi winding up the volume on a single note and getting awesome feedback

I believe it was one of the first recordings of that style of feedback

it seems simple but it's crazy effective
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03-01-2012 , 01:36 AM
jmitch does your new guitar sound like it has more distortion going into your amp than your strat? different pickups will have different amounts of gain, making some hotter than others, meaning they will produce more distortion. Stratocaster type single coils are pretty low gain, meaning they won't produce a ton of distortion and are best for clean sounds, and humbuckers like the ones in your new guitar have more gain so they produce more distortion, making what seems like a clean setting on your amp with your strat a distorted sound now with your new guitar.
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03-01-2012 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by analoguesounds
@jmitch yeah overdrive or distortion would be a good start

you just need something for a bit of crunch at times - it opens up harmonics and great sounds on your guitar too

sometimes I'll get some crazy feedback going that resonates well in a certain space and it's amazing - there's more to guitars and amps etc then just playing - resonant tones are amazing in my opinion

like the start of say foxy lady is jimi winding up the volume on a single note and getting awesome feedback

I believe it was one of the first recordings of that style of feedback

it seems simple but it's crazy effective
might have to check it out. if i can find a cheap one. i do now have an extra cable to be able to hook one up.
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Originally Posted by LirvA
jmitch does your new guitar sound like it has more distortion going into your amp than your strat? different pickups will have different amounts of gain, making some hotter than others, meaning they will produce more distortion. Stratocaster type single coils are pretty low gain, meaning they won't produce a ton of distortion and are best for clean sounds, and humbuckers like the ones in your new guitar have more gain so they produce more distortion, making what seems like a clean setting on your amp with your strat a distorted sound now with your new guitar.
it is definitely a brighter sound depending on the switch setting. might be a bit more distorted but not much as far as i can tell. i really do like how it plays so far though. glad i made the impulse buy. gotta not spend much now though as i want save for vegas this year.
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03-01-2012 , 01:44 AM
jmitch a good overdrive pedal to start out with is a Boss super overdrive, they're like 40 bucks and sound great. A bit like a tube screamer, which is also a great overdrive pedal but like twice as much or more.
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03-01-2012 , 01:50 AM
sweet. might have to check it out. thanks mang.
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03-01-2012 , 01:53 AM
yw sir


they're good because they don't color your sound with a massive mount of distortion, they're nice and transparent and they say they and other overdrive pedals such as the tube screamer have a "tube like" overdrive, like they kinda mimic the sound of an overdriven tube amp

used with a tube amp they basically do just what their name implies, overdrives the preamp and makes a lot of really harmonic gain and just sounds goot
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03-01-2012 , 02:15 AM
If I were to have one pedal, I would pick a tube screamer.

@JMitch... just go to a music store and try some pedals out. If you dont feel confident playing there, ask someone who works there to demo the pedals.
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03-01-2012 , 02:24 AM
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If I were to have one pedal, I would pick a tube screamer.

@JMitch... just go to a music store and try some pedals out. If you dont feel confident playing there, ask someone who works there to demo the pedals.
it would still be a distortion pedal in your opinion for the first one?
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03-01-2012 , 02:32 AM
I like the sound of a good tube screamer. You might like the sound of a Phaser better. You never know until you hear them imo.

Or you could consider getting a different amp that has built in sounds in it. Something like a Roland Microcube. Not very expensive, sounds good, and gives you more options than what you have now.

Having different sounds kinda makes playing more fun imo... or at least it did for me when I first started out.
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03-01-2012 , 02:36 AM
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I like the sound of a good tube screamer. You might like the sound of a Phaser better. You never know until you hear them imo.

Or you could consider getting a different amp that has built in sounds in it. Something like a Roland Microcube. Not very expensive, sounds good, and gives you more options than what you have now.

Having different sounds kinda makes playing more fun imo... or at least it did for me when I first started out.
not sure i could afford a different amp, but will def look into the pedals. i was messing around with the treble and bass with the overerdrive on my amp and could get a lot of different sounds out of that that i had no idea about, so even that is pretty cool. thanks for the advice mang.
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03-01-2012 , 03:32 AM
if you guys can get boss pedals for $40 then definitely go for that!

christ how lucky you guys are in that respect, not so much in others though! (eg. online poker )
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03-01-2012 , 09:50 AM
Some of those pedals I'd only really mess with if going into a tube amp. Otherwise a standard distortion is a pretty decent option.

One pedal I've messed with is a cheap Berhringer HD300, you can find them new on Amazon for $24 and they work just fine for the job while you're getting started. Get a power cable with it.

I prefer those nicer heavy Boss type pedals, but this one is surprisingly good for what it is. And truth be told I never thought the most of low end Boss distortions and overdrives were that good without mods. I'd much rather use an OCD Fulltone or a Tube Screamer type, if that. The gain channel on a good amp is pretty much the nuts for me. But assuming a starter solid-state type amp there aren't any tubes to push with an overdrive.

Another option is going with something like Amplitube or a Pod, where essentially you plug your guitar into the computer or device, and it models some amps and a **** ton of effects. It's not a true substitute for a nice "real" tube amp or anything, but it's a decent enough approximation for a guitar player on a budget. It's also a pretty good way to learn about all the effects and how to use them, and in Amplitube's case a little about how mic placement on cabs works and other little handy things.

Those bean-shaped Pod XTs are used on ebay around $100, that's a pretty decent all-in-one kit for someone starting out. Pop in headphones, dial up some sounds and just go. Or go into an amp and use it as a multi-effects.

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03-01-2012 , 10:13 AM
I even see people doing Amplitube through iPads now. You really have so many tools to learn on today that we didn't years ago.
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03-01-2012 , 11:08 AM
+1 for OCD fulltone.

Better solution than amplitube is using LePou plugins. Very good amp sims.
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03-01-2012 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Le Gonso
And truth be told I never thought the most of low end Boss distortions and overdrives were that good without mods. I'd much rather use an OCD Fulltone or a Tube Screamer type, if that. The gain channel on a good amp is pretty much the nuts for me. But assuming a starter solid-state type amp there aren't any tubes to push with an overdrive.
Yeah, all of this. If it's (Boss) a shade of orange or yellow, use it as a tire stop when parking on a hill... no one will steal it.
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03-01-2012 , 06:00 PM
I agree about Boss pedals but the super overdrive is a pretty good pedal imo.
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03-01-2012 , 06:17 PM
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I even see people doing Amplitube through iPads now. You really have so many tools to learn on today that we didn't years ago.
Yeah I use it through the phone, it's pretty cool.
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03-01-2012 , 07:40 PM
so that should all clear it up nicely for Jmitch
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03-01-2012 , 08:25 PM


What sort of guitar do you suppose is used for the solo in this?

What sort of effects?
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03-01-2012 , 09:11 PM
Sometihing Gibson-y or Gretch, most likely semi-hollow by the sound and knowing a little of his playing, with a wah pedal. Around 2:20 he's flipping the pickup selector switch back and forth. Good amp.
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03-01-2012 , 09:26 PM
Live videos have him using a Gibson ES-335 or similar, or a Les Paul. In the studio he probably had one equipped with a Bigsby vibrato. A lot of 355s had them.
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