Watermelon?? Pineapple? who knows - Draw Poker Forum

JMDMAX · 01-12-2008, 11:15 AM

Who knows about these games? I just started playing them a couple of sessions ago, and they are a blast.

What are the top 20% starting hands for watermelon and pineapple.
Do you have any crazy stories about these games?

Al Mirpuri · 01-12-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMDMAX

Who knows about these games? I just started playing them a couple of sessions ago, and they are a blast.

What are the top 20% starting hands for watermelon and pineapple.
Do you have any crazy stories about these games?

What is watermelon?

Phat Mack · 01-13-2008, 11:27 PM

Are you playing high or high-low?

Bjornar · 01-14-2008, 01:01 PM

Is that Crazy Pineapple? And where do you play that?

AeJay · 01-15-2008, 06:09 PM

On UB

SuperPokerJedi · 01-16-2008, 03:45 AM

Rules of Watermelon plzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

tahoepimpin · 01-16-2008, 07:59 AM

I have never heard of Watermelon but I am very familiar with pineapple. There are two main versions of the game they are a 3 card flop game in which one two or no cards can be used. The first version is just called pineapple in which after pre-flop betting is complete a card is discarded, the other version is called crazy pineapple in which a card is discarded after post-flop betting is over. In both versions if a card is not discarded the hand is dead. both versions are also played hi/lo sometimes.

Phat Mack · 01-18-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMDMAX

What are the top 20% starting hands for watermelon and pineapple.

As far as I have been able to determine, pineapple and watermelon are different names for the same game.

There are 1755 distinct pineapple hands. Here are the top 351; hi-lo; lazy pineapple; 4-handed; showdown sims (these are only 10k runs, but are prob within a couple of percentage points (If anybody wants high-only, let me know)):

Ac Ad 2d 0.637975
Ac Ad 3d 0.629829166667
Ac Ad 4d 0.6167875
Ac Ad 2h 0.615079166667
Ac Ad 3h 0.6134125
Ac Ad 5d 0.601345833333
Ac Ad 4h 0.600854166667
Ac 3d 2c 0.591116666667
Ac 3c 2d 0.589141666667
Ac 3c 2c 0.584629166667
Ac 4c 2d 0.5838875
Ac 4d 2c 0.583108333333
Ac Ad 6d 0.5780375
Ac Ad 5h 0.577791666667
Ad 3c 2c 0.577733333333
Ac 4c 3d 0.5727875
Ac 4c 2c 0.571875
Ad 4c 2c 0.567904166667
Ad 4c 3c 0.566270833333
Ac 5c 2d 0.562641666667
Ac 4d 3c 0.5618375
Ac 5c 2c 0.561358333333
Ac 5d 3c 0.561225
Ac 5d 2c 0.559266666667
Ac 4c 3c 0.5580625
Ah 3d 2c 0.554945833333
Ad 5c 2c 0.554925
Ah 4d 2c 0.554366666667
Ac Ad 6h 0.552629166667
Ad 5c 3c 0.548633333333
Ac 5c 3d 0.548545833333
Ac Ad 7d 0.547066666667
Ah 4d 3c 0.546470833333
Ac 5c 4d 0.546116666667
Ac 6d 2c 0.545408333333
Ac 5c 3c 0.5441875
Ac 5d 4c 0.542833333333
Ah 5d 2c 0.539395833333
Ac 5c 4c 0.538866666667
Ac 6c 2d 0.534004166667
Ad 5c 4c 0.533558333333
Ah 5d 3c 0.529745833333
Ad 6c 3c 0.528841666667
Ac 6d 3c 0.526483333333
Ac 6c 2c 0.523633333333
Ad 6c 2c 0.523529166667
Ac Ad 7h 0.522929166667
Ac 6c 3d 0.519804166667
Ac 7c 2d 0.518541666667
Ac 6d 4c 0.518004166667
Ac Kd 2c 0.515158333333
Ac 6c 3c 0.5119875
Ad 7c 2c 0.5102625
Ac 7d 2c 0.50975
Ad Kc 2c 0.509066666667
Ac 6c 4d 0.507508333333
Ac Ad 8d 0.506554166667
Ah 6d 2c 0.506245833333
Ah 5d 4c 0.505591666667
Ad 6c 4c 0.503783333333
Ac 7d 3c 0.503729166667
Ac 7c 3d 0.5034625
4c 3c 2d 0.502304166667
Ac 7c 2c 0.5018625
4c 3d 2c 0.501158333333
Ac Kc 2c 0.501029166667
Ac Qd 2c 0.5002125
Ad Qc 2c 0.499925
Ac 6d 5c 0.4998625
Ac 6c 4c 0.4993375
4d 3c 2c 0.4991625
Ac Jd 2c 0.497604166667
5d 3c 2c 0.497320833333
Ac Ad 8h 0.497179166667
Ac Kc 2d 0.4964375
Ac 6c 5d 0.495470833333
5c 3d 2c 0.49535
Ac 7c 4d 0.494770833333
4c 3c 2c 0.4947375
Ac Qd 3c 0.494195833333
Ac 6c 5c 0.493445833333
Ad Kc 3c 0.492504166667
Ac Qc 2d 0.491725
Ad 7c 3c 0.491445833333
Ah 6d 3c 0.491229166667
Ac 7d 4c 0.4907875
Ac Kd 3c 0.490445833333
Ac 7c 3c 0.489041666667
Ac Kc 3d 0.48895
Ac Tc 2d 0.488504166667
Ac 8c 2d 0.488275
Ac Jc 2d 0.487666666667
5c 3c 2d 0.486179166667
Ac 8d 2c 0.485741666667
Ac Qc 2c 0.4848
Ah 6d 4c 0.484783333333
Ad 7c 4c 0.484283333333
Ac Kc 3c 0.483729166667
2c 2d Ad 0.4826875
5c 3c 2c 0.482425
Ad 6c 5c 0.4824
Ah 7d 2c 0.482166666667
Ac 8d 3c 0.480704166667
Ad Jc 2c 0.480475
Ad 8c 2c 0.4799125
Ac Jd 3c 0.4791875
Ac 7c 5d 0.47895
Ah Qd 2c 0.478720833333
5d 4c 2c 0.478058333333
Ah Kd 2c 0.477733333333
Ac 7d 5c 0.477341666667
5c 4c 2d 0.477083333333
Ac Td 2c 0.476975
Ac Td 3c 0.476779166667
4h 3d 2c 0.476741666667
Ac Qc 3d 0.476595833333
Ac Jc 2c 0.475395833333
Ac Kd 4c 0.4744625
5c 4d 2c 0.4743875
5c 4c 2c 0.474033333333
Ac Jc 3d 0.474016666667
Ac 8c 3d 0.473920833333
Ac 7c 4c 0.4739125
Ad Tc 2c 0.4735875
Ac Kc 4d 0.47285
5c 4c 3d 0.4726125
Ad Kc 4c 0.472579166667
Ad Qc 3c 0.4717125
Ad Jc 3c 0.470425
Ac 8c 2c 0.470383333333
Ac Qc 3c 0.4697875
Ac Qd 4c 0.469375
5c 4d 3c 0.469320833333
Ac 8c 3c 0.4691875
Ad 7c 5c 0.469158333333
Ah Kd 3c 0.468525
Ah 7d 3c 0.4684
3c 3d Ad 0.467845833333
Ah 6d 5c 0.467641666667
Ac 7c 5c 0.467079166667
Ac Tc 2c 0.467070833333
Ad Qc 4c 0.464216666667
Ah Kd 4c 0.463954166667
Ac 8d 4c 0.463791666667
Ac Qc 4d 0.463175
Ah 8d 2c 0.462445833333
Ac Tc 3d 0.462279166667
Ac Jc 3c 0.462241666667
Ac Jd 4c 0.462133333333
Ad 8c 3c 0.461941666667
5c 4c 3c 0.461175
Ad Tc 3c 0.4609125
Ac 8c 4d 0.460754166667
Ac 9c 2d 0.4605
5d 4c 3c 0.460129166667
6c 3c 2d 0.459554166667
5h 3d 2c 0.459220833333
Ah Jd 2c 0.459133333333
Ac 9d 2c 0.4590375
Ac Jc 4d 0.458841666667
6d 4c 2c 0.458783333333
Ac Kc 5d 0.458204166667
Ad Kc 5c 0.4574125
6c 3c 2c 0.4573
Ac 9c 2c 0.457233333333
Ad 9c 2c 0.456625
6d 3c 2c 0.456354166667
Ah 7d 4c 0.456216666667
Ac Td 4c 0.455158333333
Ac 9d 3c 0.455145833333
Ac 8d 5c 0.4551125
Ac Qc 4c 0.455054166667
Ac Kc 4c 0.454954166667
Ad Jc 4c 0.4548375
6c 3d 2c 0.454375
Ah Qd 3c 0.4542875
Ah 8d 3c 0.453879166667
Ac 7d 6c 0.4538
5h 4d 2c 0.45355
Ac 8c 5d 0.4533
6c 4d 2c 0.453083333333
Ad 8c 4c 0.4523875
Ac Tc 4d 0.452329166667
Ah Td 2c 0.452104166667
4c 4d Ad 0.451333333333
6c 4c 2d 0.451291666667
Ac 9c 3d 0.450958333333
6c 4c 3d 0.450708333333
Ac Tc 3c 0.4504
Ac 7c 6d 0.449429166667
2c 2d Ah 0.449195833333
3c 3d Ah 0.447708333333
Ac Kc 5c 0.446920833333
Ah 7d 5c 0.446375
Ac 8c 4c 0.446354166667
Ad 7c 6c 0.445954166667
6c 4d 3c 0.444704166667
5h 4d 3c 0.444533333333
Ac Jc 4c 0.444379166667
Ah Jd 3c 0.444370833333
Ac Kd 5c 0.444333333333
6d 4c 3c 0.44425
Ac Qc 5d 0.443991666667
Ad Qc 5c 0.4436125
Ad 9c 3c 0.443566666667
Ac Qd 5c 0.4434625
6c 5c 2d 0.443391666667
Ac Ad Td 0.441920833333
Ac Jd 5c 0.440083333333
6h 3d 2c 0.438458333333
6c 4c 3c 0.438454166667
6c 5c 2c 0.438429166667
Ac 9c 3c 0.4384
Ah Td 3c 0.438083333333
Ac Tc 4c 0.438016666667
6c 5c 3d 0.437283333333
6d 5c 2c 0.436891666667
Ah 8d 4c 0.436620833333
7c 3c 2d 0.43625
Ac Ad Kd 0.436025
Ah Qd 4c 0.435908333333
6c 4c 2c 0.435454166667
Ac 8c 6d 0.435166666667
Ac Kc 6d 0.4350875
Ac Qc 5c 0.4350375
Ad Tc 4c 0.435033333333
Ac 7c 6c 0.434754166667
Ad 8c 5c 0.434425
Ac Jc 5d 0.434029166667
6c 5d 3c 0.433425
Ah 9d 2c 0.433395833333
6c 5d 4c 0.433370833333
7d 3c 2c 0.433233333333
5c 5d Ad 0.4329125
Ad Kc 6c 0.432241666667
Ah 7d 6c 0.431358333333
Ah Jd 4c 0.430879166667
6c 5c 4d 0.4307375
6d 5c 3c 0.4300625
7c 3d 2c 0.430004166667
Ad Jc 5c 0.429841666667
Ac Kd 6c 0.429616666667
7c 4c 2d 0.429070833333
Ac Ad 9d 0.4290625
Ac 8c 5c 0.428375
Ac Tc 5d 0.428225
Ah Kd 5c 0.428133333333
Ac 9c 4d 0.427945833333
Ac Ad Jd 0.4272875
Ah Td 4c 0.4271375
6c 5d 2c 0.427
6c 5c 3c 0.426983333333
Ad 9c 4c 0.425841666667
Ac Jc 5c 0.424566666667
Ac Ad Qd 0.4239375
Ad 8c 6c 0.423916666667
Ac 8d 6c 0.423829166667
Ac Qd 6c 0.422704166667
Ac Ad Qh 0.422695833333
6c 5c 4c 0.422458333333
Ah Qd 5c 0.422116666667
6d 5c 4c 0.422075
Ac Tc 5c 0.421720833333
7c 4d 2c 0.421679166667
Ah 9d 3c 0.421325
6h 4d 3c 0.420229166667
7d 4c 2c 0.419829166667
7c 3c 2c 0.418954166667
Ac Qc 6d 0.4186625
6c 6d Ad 0.418633333333
4c 4d Ah 0.418275
Ac Ad Th 0.417841666667
3c 3d 2d 0.417383333333
7c 4c 3d 0.4172375
6h 5d 2c 0.417025
Ah 8d 5c 0.4168125
Ac Td 5c 0.4165875
Kc Kd Ad 0.416570833333
6h 4d 2c 0.416333333333
Ac 9d 4c 0.416229166667
7c 4c 2c 0.415604166667
Ac Ad Jh 0.4147625
Ad Tc 5c 0.414404166667
Ac 8c 6c 0.414208333333
Ac Kc 6c 0.413170833333
7c 4d 3c 0.413004166667
6h 5d 4c 0.412983333333
Ac Ad Kh 0.412920833333
Ac 9c 4c 0.411845833333
Ad Qc 6c 0.411208333333
Ac 9d 5c 0.411170833333
Ac Jd 6c 0.410779166667
Ac 8d 7c 0.410454166667
Ac 9c 5d 0.4104125
Ah Jd 5c 0.40955
7c 4c 3c 0.409379166667
7d 5c 2c 0.4085
Ac Jc 6c 0.4081
Ac 8c 7d 0.407858333333
8d 3c 2c 0.407816666667
6h 5d 3c 0.407775
Ac Ad 9h 0.4074875
8c 3c 2d 0.407079166667
Kd 3c 2c 0.406754166667
Ac Jc 6d 0.405854166667
Ad 8c 7c 0.405733333333
7d 4c 3c 0.405675
Kc 3d 2c 0.405595833333
Ac Td 6c 0.405341666667
Ah Kd 6c 0.405158333333
7d 5c 3c 0.4050125
Ac Kd 7c 0.404625
Kc 3c 2d 0.404620833333
7c 5d 3c 0.404220833333
Ah 8d 6c 0.4035
7c 5c 3d 0.403416666667
7d 5c 4c 0.403408333333
Ah 9d 4c 0.402833333333
2c 2d 3d 0.402595833333
Ac Kc 7d 0.402341666667
Ad Jc 6c 0.4020375
5c 5d Ah 0.401916666667
Ac Tc 6d 0.400741666667
Kc 3c 2c 0.400716666667
Ad 9c 5c 0.400375
Ac Qc 6c 0.400333333333
Qc 3d 2c 0.400279166667
Ac 9c 5c 0.400079166667
7c 5d 2c 0.399858333333
Ah Qd 6c 0.3995
Ac Kc 7c 0.399491666667
7c 5c 2d 0.399458333333
7c 5c 3c 0.399158333333
7h 3d 2c 0.398783333333
8c 3d 2c 0.398508333333
Ad Tc 6c 0.3983625
Ac Tc 6c 0.398191666667
Ah Td 5c 0.3981625
7c 5d 4c 0.398008333333
7c 5c 2c 0.3977
Qc 3c 2d 0.397425
7c 5c 4c 0.397004166667
8c 4d 2c 0.3968375
4c 4d 2d 0.396566666667
Ac Jd 7c 0.396308333333
4c 4d 3d 0.396229166667
Ac Qd 7c 0.396104166667
7h 4d 2c 0.395695833333
Qd 3c 2c 0.395645833333
8c 4c 2d 0.395233333333
Ad Kc 7c 0.395108333333

LearnedfromTV · 01-18-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

There are 1765 distinct pineapple hands.

I get 1755:

13 trips
156 pairs suited xxy
156 pairs suited xyz
286 no pair suited xyz
858 no pair suited xxy
286 no pair suited xxx.

Am I missing something?

Phat Mack · 01-19-2008, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LearnedfromTV

I get 1755:

13 trips
156 pairs suited xxy
156 pairs suited xyz
286 no pair suited xyz
858 no pair suited xxy
286 no pair suited xxx.

Am I missing something?

Typo. 1755 is correct.

86sooted · 01-20-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat Mack

(If anybody wants high-only, let me know)):

I'd like to see this. Play some PL Crazy Pineapple (high only) in a home game.

Phat Mack · 01-22-2008, 03:06 PM

Lazy Pineapple; high only; heads up; 100k runs; top 351:

(Note that the best hand is AAT with a suit. I believe this may be true for all games of 2-10 players, but haven't proved it.)

PHP Code:


			
1    Ac Ad Td    0.7502

2    Ac Ad 5d    0.7494

3    Ac Ad Jd    0.7490

4    Ac Ad 8d    0.7481

5    Ac Ad 9d    0.7474

6    Ac Ad 4d    0.7463

7    Ac Ad 7d    0.7462

8    Ac Ad 6d    0.7460

9    Ac Ad Kd    0.7437

10    Ac Ad Qd    0.7433

11    Ac Ad Th    0.7415

12    Ac Ad 2d    0.7406

13    Ac Ad 3d    0.7390

14    Ac Ad 8h    0.7383

15    Ac Ad 5h    0.7377

16    Kc Kd Ad    0.7372

17    Ac Ad Jh    0.7365

18    Ac Ad Kh    0.7354

19    Ac Ad 7h    0.7353

20    Ac Ad 4h    0.7345

21    Ac Ad 9h    0.7342

22    Ac Ad Qh    0.7337

23    Ac Ad 6h    0.7331

24    Ac Ad 3h    0.7283

25    Kc Kd Ah    0.7276

26    Ac Ad 2h    0.7239

27    Kc Kd Td    0.7195

28    Kc Kd Jd    0.7170

29    Kc Kd Qd    0.7157

30    Qc Qd Ad    0.7156

31    Kc Kd 6d    0.7151

32    Kc Kd 5d    0.7140

33    Kc Kd 7d    0.7138

34    Kc Kd 9d    0.7125

35    Kc Kd 8d    0.7122

36    Kc Kd 4d    0.7117

37    Qc Qd Kd    0.7094

38    Kc Kd 3d    0.7079

39    Kc Kd Th    0.7072

40    Kc Kd Jh    0.7063

41    Kc Kd 2d    0.7057

42    Kc Kd 9h    0.7048

43    Kc Kd Qh    0.7038

44    Qc Qd Ah    0.7033

45    Ac Ad Ah    0.7017

46    Kc Kd 7h    0.7000

47    Kc Kd 8h    0.7000

48    Kc Kd 6h    0.6997

49    Kc Kd 5h    0.6989

50    Kc Kd 4h    0.6980

51    Qc Qd Td    0.6973

52    Qc Qd Kh    0.6964

53    Qc Qd Jd    0.6948

54    Jc Jd Ad    0.6938

55    Kc Kd 2h    0.6928

56    Kc Kd 3h    0.6921

57    Jc Jd Kd    0.6896

58    Qc Qd 9d    0.6891

59    Qc Qd 8d    0.6875

60    Jc Jd Qd    0.6868

61    Qc Qd 6d    0.6857

62    Qc Qd Th    0.6846

63    Qc Qd 7d    0.6837

64    Qc Qd 5d    0.6837

65    Qc Qd 4d    0.6835

66    Qc Qd Jh    0.6812

67    Qc Qd 3d    0.6804

68    Jc Jd Ah    0.6801

69    Jc Jd Td    0.6789

70    Qc Qd 9h    0.6779

71    Jc Jd Kh    0.6767

72    Jc Jd Qh    0.6746

73    Tc Td Ad    0.6740

74    Qc Qd 8h    0.6731

75    Qc Qd 2d    0.6715

76    Qc Qd 5h    0.6714

77    Qc Qd 7h    0.6692

78    Tc Td Kd    0.6681

79    Qc Qd 6h    0.6680

80    Tc Td Qd    0.6679

81    Tc Td Jd    0.6677

82    Jc Jd 9d    0.6668

83    Qc Qd 4h    0.6651

84    Jc Jd Th    0.6644

85    Kc Kd Kh    0.6611

86    Qc Qd 3h    0.6607

87    Qc Qd 2h    0.6598

88    Tc Td Ah    0.6593

89    Jc Jd 8d    0.6592

90    Jc Jd 7d    0.6586

91    Jc Jd 5d    0.6576

92    Tc Td Qh    0.6567

93    Tc Td Kh    0.6564

94    Jc Jd 4d    0.6560

95    Jc Jd 6d    0.6556

96    Jc Jd 9h    0.6547

97    Jc Jd 3d    0.6516

98    Tc Td Jh    0.6501

99    Jc Jd 2d    0.6497

100    Jc Jd 8h    0.6491

101    Tc Td 9d    0.6484

102    9c 9d Ad    0.6454

103    Jc Jd 7h    0.6444

104    Jc Jd 6h    0.6426

105    Jc Jd 5h    0.6412

106    9c 9d Kd    0.6398

107    Tc Td 8d    0.6387

108    Jc Jd 4h    0.6386

109    9c 9d Qd    0.6378

110    Tc Td 7d    0.6377

111    9c 9d Td    0.6362

112    Tc Td 6d    0.6359

113    Jc Jd 2h    0.6358

114    Jc Jd 3h    0.6356

115    9c 9d Jd    0.6346

116    Tc Td 9h    0.6326

117    Qc Qd Qh    0.6311

118    Tc Td 5d    0.6301

119    Tc Td 4d    0.6272

120    Tc Td 3d    0.6254

121    Tc Td 8h    0.6250

122    9c 9d Kh    0.6238

123    9c 9d Ah    0.6227

124    Tc Td 2d    0.6223

125    8c 8d Ad    0.6219

126    Tc Td 7h    0.6204

127    9c 9d Th    0.6203

128    9c 9d Jh    0.6202

129    9c 9d Qh    0.6195

130    9c 9d 8d    0.6170

131    Tc Td 6h    0.6155

132    Tc Td 5h    0.6145

133    8c 8d Qd    0.6127

134    8c 8d Kd    0.6107

135    8c 8d Td    0.6106

136    Ac Kd Qc    0.6101

137    Ac Kc Qd    0.6097

138    8c 8d Jd    0.6089

139    9c 9d 7d    0.6089

140    Tc Td 4h    0.6085

141    Ad Kc Qc    0.6083

142    Tc Td 3h    0.6076

143    Ac Kd Jc    0.6064

144    Ac Qc Jd    0.6060

145    Ad Kc Jc    0.6058

146    9c 9d 6d    0.6057

147    8c 8d 9d    0.6052

148    Ac Qd Tc    0.6048

149    Ac Qd Jc    0.6042

150    Tc Td 2h    0.6038

151    Ac Jc Td    0.6035

152    Ac Kc Jd    0.6028

153    Ac Qc Td    0.6027

154    Ad Kc Tc    0.6027

155    8c 8d Ah    0.6024

156    Ac Kc Td    0.6023

157    Ad Qc Jc    0.6017

158    Ac Jd Tc    0.6012

159    Ac Kd Tc    0.6010

160    7c 7d Ad    0.6009

161    9c 9d 5d    0.6005

162    Ad Qc Tc    0.5992

163    Ad Jc Tc    0.5984

164    9c 9d 8h    0.5975

165    Jc Jd Jh    0.5971

166    Ac Kc Qc    0.5965

167    9c 9d 4d    0.5951

168    8c 8d Kh    0.5940

169    8c 8d Jh    0.5938

170    8c 8d Qh    0.5930

171    9c 9d 3d    0.5917

172    Ah Kd Qc    0.5916

173    8c 8d Th    0.5909

174    Ac Qc Jc    0.5905

175    9c 9d 7h    0.5905

176    Ac Kc Tc    0.5902

177    Ac Kc Jc    0.5899

178    Ah Kd Jc    0.5884

179    9c 9d 2d    0.5883

180    Ac Kd 9c    0.5880

181    8c 8d 7d    0.5880

182    8c 8d 9h    0.5878

183    7c 7d Kd    0.5874

184    Ac Tc 9d    0.5874

185    Ac Kc 9d    0.5872

186    9c 9d 6h    0.5871

187    Ac Jc Tc    0.5870

188    Ad Kc 9c    0.5870

189    Ac Kc 8d    0.5869

190    Ac Qc 9d    0.5867

191    Ac Qc Tc    0.5862

192    Ac Qd 9c    0.5862

193    Ac Kd 8c    0.5862

194    Ac Jd 9c    0.5860

195    Ah Kd Tc    0.5850

196    Ad Kc 8c    0.5845

197    Ad Qc 9c    0.5843

198    Ah Qd Jc    0.5840

199    Ac Jc 9d    0.5837

200    Ac Td 8c    0.5833

201    Ah Qd Tc    0.5833

202    9c 9d 5h    0.5827

203    Ah Jd Tc    0.5827

204    7c 7d Jd    0.5826

205    7c 7d Qd    0.5826

206    Ad Tc 9c    0.5826

207    Ac Td 9c    0.5825

208    7c 7d Td    0.5823

209    6c 6d Ad    0.5819

210    Ac Tc 8d    0.5818

211    Ac Jd 8c    0.5812

212    Ac Qd 8c    0.5811

213    Kc Qc Td    0.5811

214    Kc Qc Jd    0.5809

215    8c 8d 6d    0.5809

216    Kc Qd Jc    0.5807

217    Kd Qc Tc    0.5806

218    Ad Qc 8c    0.5805

219    Ac Qc 8d    0.5804

220    7c 7d Ah    0.5804

221    Ac Kd 7c    0.5801

222    Ac Jc 8d    0.5799

223    Ad Jc 9c    0.5795

224    Kc Qd Tc    0.5795

225    Kd Jc Tc    0.5795

226    Kd Qc Jc    0.5793

227    Ad Kc 5c    0.5789

228    7c 7d 9d    0.5787

229    Ad Kc 7c    0.5784

230    Kc Jc Td    0.5783

231    Ac Kd 5c    0.5782

232    Kc Jd Tc    0.5782

233    Ad Jc 8c    0.5781

234    Ac Kc 7d    0.5779

235    Ac Kc 5d    0.5769

236    Ac Kc 6d    0.5762

237    Ac Kd 6c    0.5758

238    Ac Kc 9c    0.5755

239    Ad Tc 8c    0.5743

240    Ac Qc 9c    0.5742

241    7c 7d 8d    0.5742

242    8c 8d 5d    0.5733

243    Ac Jc 9c    0.5722

244    Ad Kc 6c    0.5721

245    7c 7d Kh    0.5718

246    Ac Kd 4c    0.5717

247    Ac Kc 4d    0.5715

248    Ac Qd 7c    0.5714

249    Kd Tc 9c    0.5713

250    Kd Qc 9c    0.5711

251    Kc Td 9c    0.5711

252    Ac Qd 5c    0.5710

253    Ac Jc 7d    0.5709

254    9c 9d 4h    0.5708

255    Kc Tc 9d    0.5706

256    Kc Jd 9c    0.5706

257    Ac Td 7c    0.5706

258    Ac Kc 8c    0.5705

259    8c 8d 7h    0.5703

260    Kc Jc 9d    0.5703

261    Ac Qc 7d    0.5703

262    Ad Kc 4c    0.5698

263    Ac Tc 8c    0.5697

264    Kd Jc 9c    0.5695

265    6c 6d Kd    0.5695

266    Ac Tc 9c    0.5691

267    Kc Qd 9c    0.5690

268    Kc Qc 9d    0.5688

269    9c 9d 3h    0.5687

270    Ad Qc 7c    0.5684

271    Ac Jd 7c    0.5680

272    Kc Qc Jc    0.5679

273    Ac 9d 8c    0.5676

274    Ac Tc 7d    0.5668

275    Ac 9c 8d    0.5667

276    5c 5d Ad    0.5667

277    Ad Jc 7c    0.5665

278    Kc Qc Tc    0.5662

279    Ac Jc 8c    0.5662

280    Kc Jc Tc    0.5661

281    Ah Jd 9c    0.5657

282    Ad 9c 8c    0.5657

283    Ac Qc 8c    0.5656

284    9c 9d 2h    0.5656

285    Tc Td Th    0.5654

286    6c 6d Qd    0.5652

287    Ac Qc 5d    0.5651

288    Ac Qd 6c    0.5651

289    Ad Tc 7c    0.5650

290    Ah Kd 9c    0.5649

291    Ac Kc 7c    0.5648

292    8c 8d 4d    0.5648

293    Ad Qc 5c    0.5646

294    Ah Td 9c    0.5645

295    Ad Kc 3c    0.5640

296    Ad Qc 6c    0.5637

297    Ac Kc 5c    0.5634

298    8c 8d 6h    0.5634

299    Qc Jd Tc    0.5633

300    Ah Kd 7c    0.5632

301    Qd Jc Tc    0.5632

302    Ac Kc 3d    0.5630

303    Qc Jc Td    0.5627

304    Ah Qd 9c    0.5626

305    Ah Qd 8c    0.5625

306    Ac Qc 6d    0.5625

307    Kh Jd Tc    0.5623

308    7c 7d Th    0.5615

309    7c 7d Jh    0.5615

310    Ah Kd 8c    0.5613

311    Ac Kc 6c    0.5610

312    Ad Jc 5c    0.5609

313    Ac Jd 5c    0.5608

314    Kh Qd Jc    0.5606

315    Ah Td 8c    0.5601

316    Ac Qc 4d    0.5601

317    Kc Tc 9c    0.5600

318    7c 7d 6d    0.5598

319    Kc Qd 8c    0.5596

320    Ac Kd 3c    0.5595

321    Kc Qc 8d    0.5595

322    Ac Qd 4c    0.5594

323    7c 7d Qh    0.5592

324    Kh Qd Tc    0.5589

325    8c 8d 3d    0.5588

326    Qc Tc 9d    0.5586

327    Ah Jd 8c    0.5584

328    Kc Jc 9c    0.5582

329    Ac Kc 4c    0.5582

330    Ac Jc 5d    0.5582

331    Kc Td 8c    0.5581

332    Ac Qc 7c    0.5581

333    8c 8d 2d    0.5580

334    Ad Qc 4c    0.5580

335    Ac 8c 7d    0.5580

336    Ac 8d 7c    0.5574

337    Ac 9c 7d    0.5574

338    7c 7d 9h    0.5571

339    Ac Jc 7c    0.5571

340    7c 7d 8h    0.5568

341    Kc Qc 9c    0.5564

342    Qd Tc 9c    0.5561

343    Qc Jc 9d    0.5561

344    6c 6d Ah    0.5561

345    Ah Kd 5c    0.5559

346    Kc Tc 8d    0.5559

347    6c 6d Td    0.5558

348    Qc Td 9c    0.5558

349    Kd Tc 8c    0.5557

350    Ac Tc 7c    0.5556

351    Ac Td 6c    0.5555

86sooted · 01-23-2008, 04:28 PM

Thanks. I assume the "lazy" part means you don't pitch one after flop action in this simulation, is that right?

Phat Mack · 01-23-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86sooted

Thanks. I assume the "lazy" part means you don't pitch one after flop action in this simulation, is that right?

Right. All three are kept 'til the end; 0,1 or 2 may be used. It keeps the showdown sim simple, bit winning frequencies should be reduced for crazy pineapple.

cabiness42 · 01-30-2008, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat Mack

(If anybody wants high-only, let me know)):

I've never played any variation of pineapple before and am playing NL crazy pineapple (ditching the 3rd card after the flop) this weekend. I'd appreciate any analysis or strategy that anybody would care to provide.