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Originally Posted by Bjornar
You know these stakes alot better then me, thats for sure. Losing a bet at 30-60 is much more of a "crime" then at 1-2.
You havent mentioned anything about what your action would be if there is a 3-bet behind you.
Lets say UTG opens. You flat on the button with, lets make it a somewhat vulnerable hand like QQQKx. Now the BB 3-bets you both. What is your action if:
a) UTG now 4-bets
b) UTG now flats the 3-bet
I probably wouldn't flat call with that (although I've tried in the past) !
I think the worst "strong" hand I'll flat call with is KKK without an ace kicker, but has no Q/J/T (so that somebody has/makes weaker trips); it's usually KKKA or AAA with "good hand features" or quads.
a) call, since QQQKx should be best predraw at least about 1/6 of the time and draw one unless somebody raps pat or both draw two;
b) sure, you would like to mostly call to disguise the cold-calling range, but now that the BB has 3-bet, tend to cap when the BB's capping range includes hands weaker than aces up; there's a pretty strong case to cap now to get two more small bets in the pot when you have the best of it and sometimes the opener gets caught in the middle with a weak two pairs or simply a pair.
Several months ago, I had a "strange" hand (dont' have the HH, but I remember the important details) at $10-20: hijack open raises, I smooth call with AAA in the cutoff, the button 3-bets, SB ( weak loose player ) cold calls, BB folds and opener caps; all call. SB draws one, opener draws two as do I and the button. Post-draw: SB and opener check, I bet and
everybody calls! SB has kings-up (!!), opener 222 (!) and button has JJJ (he's the only player that should pay off). If I had 3-bet, would the SB cold call the four-bet with kings-up? (maybe he still would; the opener would more likely muck if I had 3-bet and button 4-bet) I remember a few other hands where I cold call with AAA but get heads up with a three-card draw that checkraises postdraw and pays off with trips.
If somebody plays a reraise/fold strategy predraw with two pairs, he'll likely have to muck hands such as 3322 to 8822 predraw on the button versus an utg raise rather than reraise; sure, it's not a big loss in EV for folding these, but bear in mind that cold calling with these is profitable on the button. On the other hand, by cold calling and drawing one, there needs to be some "balance" so that if the opener has a one card draw, he can't just fire a bet into a heads up pot and expect to take it uncontested most of the time.