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02-06-2016 , 04:36 AM
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Seat 1: t2990 M = 13.59
Seat 2: t3140 M = 14.27
Seat 3: t2760 M = 12.55
Seat 4: t2950 M = 13.41
Hero (): t1840 M = 8.36
Seat 7: t2990 M = 13.59
Seat 8: t3000 M = 13.64

3rd Street: (0.7 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 2____Seat 1 brings in for $30
Seat 2: xx xx T____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5____Seat 3 folds
Seat 4: xx xx 4____Seat 4 calls
Hero: Q Q A___Hero calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7____Seat 7 calls
Seat 8: xx xx Q____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (1.9 SB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 2 8____Seat 1 checks
Seat 4: xx xx 4 9____Seat 4 checks
Hero: Q Q A K___Hero checks
Seat 7: xx xx 7 5____Seat 7 checks

5th Street: (0.95 BB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 2 8 Q____Seat 1 folds
Seat 4: xx xx 4 9 8____Seat 4 folds
Hero: Q Q A K T___Hero checks___Hero calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7 5 4____Seat 7 bets
stud 8/b spot with just queens Quote
02-06-2016 , 05:11 AM
It's better to ask in stud forum http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/20/stud/

IMHO you should play your hand very aggressivly to get as many folds as possible asap, or don't play it at all (one Q is dead).

Last edited by Fold&Forget; 02-06-2016 at 05:18 AM.
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02-06-2016 , 05:15 AM
oh sorry about that
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02-06-2016 , 09:22 AM
With a dead Q on 3rd it steers it towards fold>raise>call. I'd want to raise rather than call because I'd hope the power of my Ace is strong enough to convince Seat 7 to fold some hands so I can hopefully get it heads up with Seat 4. The bring-in also has a 2 which is one of the best low cards to be against on 3rd.

Check/fold on 5th street. Seat 1 caught the last Q and the bet is larger than the size of the pot and the bet came from someone showing 3 low cards, making it not worth it to continue. Even though you picked up a straight draw it's just too likely you are only going to get half the pot or scooped and the risk of your bet vs the reward in the pot is not nearly favourable enough.

I am still learning but what I say merely parrots what is said in the DeucesCracked video series The Situation with Joe Tall.

In that series, an almost an identical situation arises where 2 players catch low on 4th in a 3 way pot and his high pair does not improve. It checks through and the low boards catch more low cards, and one of the low boards bets on 5th. JT folds.
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02-06-2016 , 09:28 AM
Keep posting Stud 8 hands and post your opinions on others to keep the Stud forum alive please! Just make sure you do it there and not in the Draw/Other forum
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02-06-2016 , 02:13 PM
On 5th you still have slightlybetter than 1/3 equity, but you'll be facing two more bets on 6th and 7th when you may be drawing for half or drawing dead, so not much point in continuing.


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02-08-2016 , 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
With a dead Q on 3rd it steers it towards fold>raise>call. I'd want to raise rather than call because I'd hope the power of my Ace is strong enough to convince Seat 7 to fold some hands so I can hopefully get it heads up with Seat 4. The bring-in also has a 2 which is one of the best low cards to be against on 3rd.

Check/fold on 5th street. Seat 1 caught the last Q and the bet is larger than the size of the pot and the bet came from someone showing 3 low cards, making it not worth it to continue. Even though you picked up a straight draw it's just too likely you are only going to get half the pot or scooped and the risk of your bet vs the reward in the pot is not nearly favourable enough.

I am still learning but what I say merely parrots what is said in the DeucesCracked video series The Situation with Joe Tall.

In that series, an almost an identical situation arises where 2 players catch low on 4th in a 3 way pot and his high pair does not improve. It checks through and the low boards catch more low cards, and one of the low boards bets on 5th. JT folds.
Precisely this. Nice post.
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02-08-2016 , 02:40 PM
pot is very small on 5th but seat 7, if he is a good player should not have a low at this point but i still think folding is fine

3rd street is an obvious complete
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