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Originally Posted by Fold&Forget
Never play it, only saw Hellmuth stream a bit.
More boring as you have less info available. In standard variant (especially 3 handed) you have to adjust to all cards you saw. You have to be flexible and creative.
Here you are much more standard. Say starting dopper is always go to the bottom, while in standard pineapple it could be splitted or even go to the middle when both pairs are small and dead.
More solvable - As you have less info to analyze. Standard pinapple needs server for bot to be good I hope . Here it could be solved by PC bots.
BTW what are the rules for Fantasy Land? How do you play?
I think you're right, it's a bit more boring. But it appears very +ev. I have seen quite a separation in skill levels and accompanying win rate. I have a friend who thinks it'll be too skill-based to keep recs in the game.
All cards are down. It's dealt like Pineapple. You only see other hands at the showdown.
I suppose you can create an 'optimal setting' system/bot, but IMO an effective one is a ways away. You will always need to make adjustments mid-game, and one of the tricks is to guess which branch your opponents have chosen, and whether you will go with them or against them. So does a bot in a vacuum cut it unless you can program in other player tendencies? I think it's important to remember also that, for example, a 2-flush start is approximately a coin flip to get there, and as 2-flush is in every single starting hand, there's quite a bit of variance as the hand plays out. So someone can get crazy and still get there ~1/2 the time - how does that play against an optimally setting bot?
Fantasyland: In this particular app, it is 13-card that is auto-dealt and auto-set. It adds x points to your total score from each player. I believe the problem with a normal Fantasyland is that if 4 players all make it, there aren't enough cards for FL and the other hands. Still, I think the auto-deal could be adjusted to accommodate the rules for Progressive.
There are some concessions, for sure, but the big gain is the number of players, which is completely adjustable.