there's no LC thread and this doesnt really warrant a thread imo so ill ask here:

2-7 TD, 2 3 4 5 6

ditch the 5 right?

Yep

Kind of a coincidence that I also had that same spot today with 34567. with the 3457 all being the same suit. Ditched the 5 as well.

Also, there is a LC thread, its the other poker regs/bbv thread just below this one

that's where i originally put my post but a mod saw fit to move it to its own thread. it was kind of funny seeing a post starting a thread say "this doesn't deserve a thread".

I'm guilty.

You wrote, "there's no LC thread and this doesnt really warrant a thread imo so ill ask here" and I thought, "What the heck, if DrawNone wants a thread titled low content, let's oblige him."

Had I thought about it longer, I might have simply moved DrawNone's post to the "other poker regs/bbv thread" - but that simply didn't occur to me.

As I age, I'm not as sharp as I was when I was younger... and it takes longer and longer to pee.

Anyhow, now we have a low content thread and also an other poker regs/bbv thread. We can leave things as they are or if you like, I can merge this thread with the "other poker regs/bbv" thread. Not a big deal to me one way or the other.

Buzz

that seems like a reasonable explanation Buzz. i'll PM the admins to take down my ATF thread complaining about your heavy-handed mod actions.

seriously tho, when i browse through the o8 forum i cant read more than a few posts without finding you being helpful or friendly (usually both). your'e awesome.

i don't really have an opinion one way or the other now that this separate thread is here, but i admit last night after (another) losing 2-7 session i didn't know whether to post here for advice on dealing with prolonged downswings in games that dont run often, or to go BBV thread to complain and vent lol.

As it's pretty dead here atm, if it'll get people talking at all more than they do now in here, then I say just keep it.

i´ll contribute.


2-7 TD, OOP on turn, goes Hero 1:2 Villain,

we get 87653, Hero bet-Villain raise.

Do you calldown here always (3bet)? Where does the 3bet line go?

Yep always at least calling. Sometimes in aggressive HU games that's a 3bet, but I'd lean towards flatting, esp in ring. I think it's probably pretty good for your overall range to have some strongish semi-under-repped pats vs 2 like that in there too, and sometimes he'll value own himself there with 9s, or sometimes he'll miss value in later hands because of that.

2-7 TD

Hero raise BTN 7653X, BB 3bet

Cap/draw 1 or call/draw 2?

Dont think you should draw 2 here, nor 4b. In PL you might want to consider 4betting as a sort of semibluff. I guess you could do it in limit too planning to snow the hell out of villain if there is FE later on

yeah in TD just thinking about draw1/pat weak hands and snows vs likely 1card draw?

or is drawing to 753XX better plan vs Villains range?

I would cap and draw 1. And consider a snow somewhere in the hand.

When not capping pre and drawing 1, you are showing to much weakness. And pretty much telling your opponent that you have a rough draw.

Villain should also be 3betting a fair share of 2draw hands vs btn steal range

IMO cap and draw 1, if there are 2 opponents u call and draw 2 since ur in big need of powerful card vs 2 players and in worst case if u get a made hand without a deuce u have awesome kickers.

edit: Almost awesome.

edit2: Even if villain has 234x7 he will most of the time not make an 8 low so if u keep the 6 its near a coinflip or even a good bluff if u pat a 9 directly after first draw, if u take two its up to lady luck but as I said a 976xx pat wont make it in 3way pots so ditch the 6 then.

2-7 TD, 6max

In SB we raise 9653x, BB 3bets, whats our best plan?

To cry.
Most options and play-outs pretty much suck.

Not sure if it's correct but I call and draw 2. In fact I usually draw 2 even BB just calls, unless he is drawing 3.

....? You can't know this if he calls.

My bad, I assumed it was HU for some reason.

In a full ring game I would always draw 2 here, even if BB had just called. Not saying that's right, but it's what I do.

what do you think is the average winning pat hand after the last draw in 2-7TD
1) HU?
2) 6-max?

i was just in this cool/interesting spot:

.25/.50 pot limit 2-7, 6 handed, whole table is pretty deep with 70+ bbs.

UTG limps which turns out to be contagious. 4 limps, Hero has 7774K in the SB and completes, BB checks.

Hero keeps the 7 (obviously), draws 3 and makes 77488. UTG (a weak station) draws 2, every1 else draws 3.

do you go wayyyy deep into the playbook and attempt a 3-barrel kamikaze 1/0/0 snow vs. 5 villains?

Hell yes! Or just try get there are but that's no fun.

If you had raised and drawn 2 pre, I'd say yes (or at least start the barreling process and re-evaluate later). But with all the deuces and treys left, somebody going to make at least a smooth 9 or 87 and call you down or play back bc you went 3 to pat. You might even get re-bluffed by another paired hand like 233xx. But you can always fire the relatively inexpensive first barrel and re-evaluate, I just don't like your chances. Might be worth considering which villains will fold their pat hands to a big bet in between barrels.

Is "Kurt Nilsen" on FTP the real Kurt Nilsen?




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