Does anyone know if there is a tracking prog that`s working for 2-7 TD nl and fix because right now I am useing excel and it`s hard keeping track when u play alot off tabels I dont mean like a hud but just too keep track winnings and loosing

hit cashier and throw a party at regular intervals

is A-5TD ever gonna come to stars?

why do you want an inferior game?

ok i wanna ask smthing about HU etiquette.

u start a match and play a while do u mentally keep a note who had the btn first and then even it out in the end? even after a 2 hour match for example?
obv this fails when someone busts
do ppl do this in general or nobody does it and u give away free money like a samaritan?
only when asked?

If anything if I were the one to quit I would be greedy and always play my button last, but that's after a longish match, nobody keeps count. If its a regular or something I try to give 15 min warning if I am thinking of quitting, if its a random or I just don't care about my reputation / image I would quit whenever I want. In heads up when to quit is a skill and there is nothing really wrong with quitting whenever you want, though I do try to have courtesy when it doesn't harm me much to do so.

Takes 5 seconds to see who started on the button. Click the handhistory number and scroll up to the first hand played at the table.

If you started, give the button away. If he started, keep the button. Simple as that.

If someone busts on his button I'll let them off the hook but make a note that they owe me one, if villain quits with the extra button I'll always ask for it, even if he's stuck.

With all this I play about 1% more bbs than sbs in hugames. Giving away even more would make the game very hard to beat imo, especially at stakes where the rake has a big impact on your winrate.

DD, if your opponent asks for his button back, do you give it?

If it was the type of opponent (i.e. reg or semi-reg) who I would give warning to before quitting, then yes, if not, then no, it is not a requirement.

To be honest I think this might be more of a conversation in the current stars landscape which I'm not a part of, but before black friday vast majority of the time if I were playing heads up it would be with some drooler who doesn't care about the buttoning issue at all and the only way the match would end is if he quits me or busts out.

I almost never battled with regulars that would be the type to give me warning of leaving and care about buttons, most often I would play some semi-regs that I considered to be worse than me (hi BOI!) that would usually still button me and/or quit without warning if they got ahead a little bit or made a good sized comeback when stuck. As far as I'm concerned those just come with the territory when you are playing a hu match you feel you have an edge in.

While you might feel aggrieved because you have the fish to yourself, this is tough sh** imo. It's people trying to keep the fish to themselves that started the bumhunting epidemic.

If there's no other game running and noone is joining my tables, then I dont have a problem with sitting in, in the same way i understand why people sit at my tables that are playing hu.

There's a reason stars dont have hu tables for 27 and i imagine its going to stay that way for the foreseeable future.

this is pure bull. i was playing a semi-reg and we both wanted to play hu and we moved like 4-5 times to other tables when others sat and didn't ack our req to play. if we move and move and move its not that hard to understand that fish or reg or whatever, he just wants to play hu not ring game.

also who said im not the fish

Who was it? (the one who kept interrupting)

I was going to suggest a home game, but the stakes don't go above $0.5/$1.

Snowboard everyone knows your not a fish between 2/4 and 5/10. If there's games going then I would consider it rude. However, the tables are 6 max, noone is breaking any rules other than some manufactured heads up etiquette invented by professional poker players for the most part to get the fish to themselves.

FWIW, as a general rule i'd never sit in if someone asked for hu, but i don't see why it's an issue. The tables are 6 max, people have the right to sit. If you dont want to play with them, well that is tough luck buddy. There are no headsup tables for 2-7 triple draw and until there is, everyone does and will have the right to continue sitting at those tables.

No idea what the stars landscape looks like now, but aren't there TD HU SNGs? If you and a reg wanted to play, would that satisfy you?

Also if the player has chat off (like me) he may not even see your HU request. He should probably get the hint after you move a bunch of times, but still, he has the right to sit down.

it bothers me cause ive never asked for a fish to play HU and tbh i dont do this cause alarms go off in fishes when u ask them for hu. thats why im bothered cause im not bumhunting but when someone sees 2 regs play each other and ask for hu and sit out everytime u sit in, well ... some ppl crush weddings too but its not my style

sng is not the same as cash game ainec

Because when two people ask for HU with each other and the third won't leave, he's just killing the game. But if only one person asks for HU, I see no reason to respect it.

I know it's only day 2, but is there there any draw traffic on revolution? Should I make an attempt to get some money on lock? There isn't much on Merge but people will wander in if I sit around a while.

What do most of you recommend for a complete beginner but experienced hold em player in literally every format(sngs from 2-180 players,tourneys,CAP,HU) except limit who wants to start playing 8game mix?

I have Super System and read a bit on Stud and some of the other games. I'm wondering if the stuff in Super System is good enough to warrant a in depth read.

Besides that I literally have no idea how to get started on the early stages of learning these games.

I guess I'll also mention what my basic idea of each game in 8 game mix is atm.

Triple draw 2-7 - Position is King. After this fact I have no idea of starting hand requirements etc.

Limit Hold em' - Similar to hold em runs similar to CAP except we can open up our opening requirements and play looser post-flop because we can't get shipped on pre and always have insane pot odds.

Omaha8- Playing for scoops is king. Middling cards are terrible. AAxx is still good but Iunno if you should go shovelling money pre with it or not.

Razz- Don't brick

Stud- I know some random **** like don't chase flush draws if >2 of your outs are gone on a full table etc. Split pairs aren't as good as hidden cards(LDO?). Once you call 5th street you're pretty much committed. Iunno how wrong/right that last one is.

Stud8- Play for lo similar to omaha. Big lo hands are ****ty. Big lo pairs with a baby aren't bad (55-88). Split Ks or worse is garbage. The nuts is 543sss. +1 for knowing best starting hand!

Hold em- Hey a game I know!

PLO- I played this one a bit for a while but was a bit too nitty but I assume in big bet games people probably play nittier in them in general and avoid confrontation without the nuts?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Edit: Is there a tracking program for 8game?

Combination of Super System and DeucesCracked should provide a decent intro to the non holdem limit games.

DeathDonkey has 2 series on TD, one called triple the gold and a newer one called mentor where he analyses member videos. Both are pretty good. He also has a ton of good LHE stuff.

I think JoeTall has some good stuff on the stud variants available on DC too though it's a long time since I watched them. DD may be able to make some recommendations for you.

Thanks a lot! Looks like there's tonnes of TDL on DC and a bit of stud on top of that. The TDL alone will be more then worth a subscription. The rest of the games seem pretty popular on 2p2 so it should be fairly easy to get started on those when the time comes but if anyone has any other good content to recommend please do so!

For 2-7 you should search some of the threads on this subforum. Some of the threads are superb(I really cant remember the exact names of the threads or can be bothered trying to find them now). Try searching some of the slightly older DeathDonkey ones maybe.

AAx with a suit in O8 is huge. Midling cards like rundowns can be good in multiway pots(like 4 or more people). Ace with low with suit to the ace is playable.

Dont really agree with the pairs in stud8 but definetly dont go crazy with them.

Online 8-mix PLO can be CRAZY. But it depends on the game.

Some random thoughts. In the 8-mix I can only really make proper analysis for 2-7 but I feel like I know all the games OK. Feel free to make specific 2-7 hand threads in this subforum. Some of the best players in the world answer here.

+1

I realised a little while ago that this is part of what attracted me to 2-7 in the first place. Half of the guys who I see playing the 30/60+ games post strategy advice in here, and they'll do it in your thread about .10/.20! Great community spirit here in draw-land (or is there some other motivation that I'm missing?)

Brag: 105 big bet session
Beat: c/c'd river with a pair of 8's near the end cause I was getting tired
Variance: 283 hands

Good first session of only 2-7 @ 3/6. Hope the sun running continues.

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