Other Poker Regs/BBV thread

[Bjornar]

Originally Posted by shaundeeb

btw guys anything you see me do thats horrible let me know really curious what I should have done on the 98 perfect pat 4bet hand vs the draw how deep we are felt dirty checking . hh below


erStars Game #47684320581: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($10/$20 USD) - 2010/08/03 21:35:12 PT [2010/08/04 0:35:12 ET]
Table 'Arete V' 7-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: shaundeeb ($7772 in chips)
Seat 2: gunning4you ($1858 in chips)
Seat 3: dwilliams ($4431 in chips)
Seat 4: FossilMan ($4396 in chips)
Seat 5: NoraFlum ($1878 in chips)
dwilliams: posts small blind $10
FossilMan: posts big blind $20
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to shaundeeb [8c 9c 2s 3d 4d]
NoraFlum: folds
shaundeeb: raises $40 to $60
gunning4you: raises $100 to $160
dwilliams: calls $150
FossilMan: folds
shaundeeb: raises $520 to $680
gunning4you: folds
dwilliams: calls $520
dwilliams: discards 1 card
FossilMan said, "more dead money here, just ask them after I leave"
shaundeeb: stands pat on [8c 9c 2s 3d 4d]
dwilliams: checks
shaundeeb: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dwilliams: shows [2h 5s 3h 7s Tc] (Lo: T,7,5,3,2)
shaundeeb: shows [8c 9c 2s 3d 4d] (Lo: 9,8,4,3,2)
shaundeeb collected $1538 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1540 | Rake $2
Seat 1: shaundeeb showed [8c 9c 2s 3d 4d] and won ($1538) with Lo: 9,8,4,3,2
Seat 2: gunning4you (button) folded before Flop
Seat 3: dwilliams (small blind) showed [2h 5s 3h 7s Tc] and lost with Lo: T,7,5,3,2
Seat 4: FossilMan (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: NoraFlum folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Agree with iron. Unless you have been out of line here too much or you often show up with very slim pats this is a check back. From what I saw the first night you guys played(at least I think it was the first night) David Williams will be drawing to beat you almost always and will only call you if he hits what he hit(assuming he was drawing to the wheel here which I would guess he did).

So in my usual blabbering replies, I think you played it perfect but table dynamics could squeeze out a valuebet here.

Edit: Btw, wish I had a bankroll to play you guys. Looks like a really good and gambling game. Just what I like.

[SOA]

So happy to 1) have time off from to school to be playing poker again and 2) see my PH Triple Draw graph going in the right direction.

I also really wish Stars would offer guarantees on their small stakes Triple Draw and Badugi tournaments.

[Planetist]

Well, i'm not exactly a reg, but...

PokerStars Game #47736325218: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/08/05 15:28:44 EET [2010/08/05 8:28:44 ET]
Table 'Atria III' 7-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Planetist ($36 in chips)
Seat 2: Angyalfold ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 3: volk0076 ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Horrz ($28.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Zubarew ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 7: wayne 456 ($28.80 in chips)
Zubarew: posts small blind $0.25
wayne 456: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Planetist [4s 3d 6c 7c 8s]
Planetist: raises $1 to $1.50
Angyalfold: folds
volk0076: calls $1.50
Horrz: folds
Zubarew: calls $1.25
wayne 456: raises $5 to $6.50

What would you say is my best option here? I haven't played with the villain before this session, but so far he's been real quiet, haven't seen him play too many hands so far.

[iron81]

You're right that that guy is nitty. I would call down, but I would get away from it if he bets pot or larger post.

Also, where are the 5CD guys? This isn't the KCL thread.

[Bjornar]

Originally Posted by iron81

You're right that that guy is nitty. I would call down, but I would get away from it if he bets pot or larger post.

Also, where are the 5CD guys? This isn't the KCL thread.

I dont play Stars these days and Ongame HH are rubbish.

[hopeless]

What does KCL mean?

btw gg iron (i'm K_A_N_E F). Would have offered rematch but my connection is bad as im in a hotel, thats why i asked you to play 1-2

[iron81]

Kansas City Lowball is the old school name for NL 2-7

[Bjornar]

KCL has special rules that Stars dont have. KCL is with ante and one very special rule that you cant openlimp. I wouldnt call the game Stars spreads KCL.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by hopeless

What does KCL mean?

Iron answered correctly.

KCL (Kansas City Low) is single draw 2-7 lowball.

2-7 lowball is rarely played with a joker.

When a joker is used, I don't know if the game is still called KCL or not.

Buzz

[iron81]

Originally Posted by Bjornar

KCL has special rules that Stars dont have. KCL is with ante and one very special rule that you cant openlimp. I wouldnt call the game Stars spreads KCL.

To me this is like saying that NLHE isn't NLHE if there is a mandatory straddle.

[2J4U]

Originally Posted by Bjornar

KCL has special rules that Stars dont have. KCL is with ante and one very special rule that you cant openlimp. I wouldnt call the game Stars spreads KCL.

I would. 2-7 draw isn't so special as to be the only form of poker whose name changes based on whether it has an ante, or a mandatory straddle. Call it Kansas City Lowball if you like. Call it "that bull**** game" like most of the players in my home game do if you like. It's the same game, whatever the rules are.

[iron81]

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $69.20
UTG: $66.40
CO: $92.60
Hero (BTN): $55.80
SB: $40.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 8 6 5 K
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) Q 7 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $7.15, Hero raises to $28.60, UTG raises to $63.40 all in, Hero calls $24.20 all in

Turn: ($113.10) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($113.10) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $113.10
UTG shows T 8 K 9 (high card Ace)
Hero mucks 8 6 5 K
UTG wins $111.10
(Rake: $2.00)

[Jackal69]

so does the 10/20 nl single draw actually run regularly or was that just an anomaly? Played for a bit but was too tired to keep going, want another go! Shaun post some more hands pls!

[Biggle10]

Originally Posted by iron81

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $69.20
UTG: $66.40
CO: $92.60
Hero (BTN): $55.80
SB: $40.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 8 6 5 K
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

My 2 cents: I think this is a fold preflop.

[sheriffolds]

Originally Posted by Biggle10

My 2 cents: I think this is a fold preflop.

+1

But post flop is good IMO.