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12-19-2012 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MaverickUSC
J
K
448
heres my question

i agree with setting the hand this way and this is how i would do it. pretty much everything that was explained is my thought process.

however, how would you prove that this is the best way to set this hand at the start? what would you need to know to come to that determination?
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12-19-2012 , 02:07 AM
I'm a feel player.
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12-19-2012 , 02:44 AM
yes me too obv

just wondering how someone would go about actually trying to do some real analysis of starting hand layouts
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12-19-2012 , 03:31 AM
2 similar hands to the first here but a little bit different:

1) AK322 and

2) AQTT9

how you set?
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12-19-2012 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chrosmos
2 similar hands to the first here but a little bit different:

1) AK322 and

2) AQTT9

how you set?
1) I think there is 2 ways;
3 OR 3
22 K
AK A22

2)I think you can do the same as above BUT i would always almost set like this;
9
Q
ATT
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12-19-2012 , 11:29 AM
1)
K
A
223

2)
Q
A
TT9

I've been playing mostly 3 and 4 handed lately and that's how I'd set them assuming other players aren't showing cards that I'm drawing for (playing HU seems like you don't have to be nearly as aggressive). We also play fantasy land which I go for any reasonable chance I have.
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12-19-2012 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scrolls
1)
K
A
223

2)
Q
A
TT9

I've been playing mostly 3 and 4 handed lately and that's how I'd set them assuming other players aren't showing cards that I'm drawing for (playing HU seems like you don't have to be nearly as aggressive). We also play fantasy land which I go for any reasonable chance I have.
Would you still set it this way if you didn't play Fantasyland?
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12-20-2012 , 04:39 AM
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12-20-2012 , 05:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrolls
1)
K
A
223

2)
Q
A
TT9

I've been playing mostly 3 and 4 handed lately and that's how I'd set them assuming other players aren't showing cards that I'm drawing for (playing HU seems like you don't have to be nearly as aggressive). We also play fantasy land which I go for any reasonable chance I have.
number 1 seems ok

number 2 i think is different -
9
Q
ATT
because pair of nine is 4 points so we dont have to gamble here so much
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12-20-2012 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tringlomane
Would you still set it this way if you didn't play Fantasyland?
Probably, but it's obviously closer. Big pairs are still worth a ton up ton.
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12-21-2012 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dirty moose
1) I think there is 2 ways;
3 OR 3
22 K
AK A22

2)I think you can do the same as above BUT i would always almost set like this;
9
Q
ATT
In your first example, what are you doing when the 2 rolls off? In your second option for hand 1, why are you playing the A with the 22 at the bottom? Why not play the 223 at the bottom with the A in the middle and K up top?

Also same question applies to example 2: why are you playing the A with the TT at the bottom? Why not play TT9 at the bottom with the A in the middle and Q up top?
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12-21-2012 , 05:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scrolls
1)
K
A
223

2)
Q
A
TT9

I've been playing mostly 3 and 4 handed lately and that's how I'd set them assuming other players aren't showing cards that I'm drawing for (playing HU seems like you don't have to be nearly as aggressive). We also play fantasy land which I go for any reasonable chance I have.
best poss plays
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12-21-2012 , 05:21 AM
how about?

789TT

or

AA234
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12-21-2012 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wptbot
how about?

789TT

or

AA234
Hmm..I think my first play depends a lot on seen cards. I'd determine if drawing for flush is reasonable, and if not I guess draw at the open ender on the bottom.

1.
(None)
T
78910

2.
4
A
A23

I'm new to this game, but I'm really enjoying it! These were tough for me, so I'd love to discuss some peoples thoughts on these spots. Thanks!
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12-21-2012 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cbayly12
In your first example, what are you doing when the 2 rolls off? In your second option for hand 1, why are you playing the A with the 22 at the bottom? Why not play the 223 at the bottom with the A in the middle and K up top?

Also same question applies to example 2: why are you playing the A with the TT at the bottom? Why not play TT9 at the bottom with the A in the middle and Q up top?
(Please bear in mind I have only been playing this for a few weeks)

In hand #1 The first option; If another 2 rolls off, I put it on top. This would suck I know. With the second option, I would want to make a big two pair. I think its less of a gamble. What happens if an Ace come off when you have 223 on the bottom. Now your in trouble.

Same logic with hand #2 If you play the Ace in the middle its a big gamble.

I'm open for more/better logic.
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12-21-2012 , 01:36 PM
So if we aren't playing Fantasy Land, does this change how we should lay out a hand like 223KA
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12-22-2012 , 02:07 AM
Anyone know of any good strategy articles/books/websites that are reputable for open face? Like this thread discussion, but it's lacking community involvement and I'm loving this game. Thanks!
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12-26-2012 , 09:58 AM
i think this thread lacks community involvement because, generally, those serious enough about the game understand that the wide profit margin their fellow two+twoer enjoys over whoever it is they sit with-in say vegas or the local cardroom-is narrowed drastically when this whoever has done even a few minutes of their homework. For now, little study material is available.

The new degrees in competency two+twoers could reach through a richer discussion may not be worth the cost. IMO let the intuitive player have their open crack at the game before the flood of information dries it all up.
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12-26-2012 , 10:22 AM
Possibly so blu, but the little strategy I have read up on itt, I have a feeling the strategy of this game is really complex and even increased discussion in this thread won't all of a sudden make people experts. Hell, most people don't fully adsorb good strategy discussion anyway. I guess the biggest worry for people trying to make a profit on the game would be that discussion closes up the biggest leaks in people's play. Since I live in Missouri right now, I have no problem with discussion though because no way in hell I am making money off this game.
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12-26-2012 , 10:25 AM
Anyone wanna play me? KingofFrag is my app name, I respond quickly am competent and will play many games!
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12-26-2012 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mEnTaLgIaNt
Anyone wanna play me? KingofFrag is my app name, I respond quickly am competent and will play many games!
Yeah I want to. How does it work when playing someone else? Like if I'm busy I don't wanna hold you up. Is it similar to words with friends?
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12-27-2012 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cbayly12
Yeah I want to. How does it work when playing someone else? Like if I'm busy I don't wanna hold you up. Is it similar to words with friends?
Yeah, if ur busy and can't make a move, just don't the game ends by itself I think if some one is inactive for a couple days.. But yeah the game is idled till you can make a move so no worries
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01-02-2013 , 03:09 PM
Love the gamblers going up top with big pairs. Give me yo chips. Sit back and don't FOUL. You'll get enough good hands with royalties.
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01-03-2013 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cbayly12
So if we aren't playing Fantasy Land, does this change how we should lay out a hand like 223KA
Top 22
Bottom KA

Or

Middle K
Bottom 22A
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01-15-2013 , 05:24 PM
I have a really hard time with even simple settings, something like:

KQ542. Thoughts?
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