can i get opinions on which i should subscribe to? any opinions on the 2 sites please. positive/negative.

openfacesolutions or playwarren?

changing my opinion on this.

3k points min. 10k conservative. was mentioned earlier itt and i agree with it.

This just got posted on PN

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2015/0...ldem-21239.htm

Whoever wrote this article has got it wrong from what I can work out.

4 players max
3 boards are dealt. Turn and rivers all face down.

Player A gets all 9 cards. Sets 3 2 card hands face down. Discards 3. Same with player B, C and D.

Or maybe a variant

Player A gets 3 cards. Sets 2, discards 1. Same for Player B, C and D.

3 rounds of this in total. Leaves 1 card left. Turns and Rivers are turned over and points are attributed.

If someone who was there can verify all points and rules (FL?) it would be greatly appreciated.

how much of an advantage is the button in 3 handed? in 2 handed?

i guess in terms of points? as an example from holdem, you can be +3bb hu on the button and -.5bb from the sb long term.

is the advantage that big in ofc?

thanks for responses.

this imo is why ofc pinneapple is such a great game. everyone thinks they have it figured out and their way is right

I've heard Greenstein and Deeb say that btn (at least 2 handed, not sure about 3) is worth ~.5 pts

Personally, I think there is only one right way. And I assume that my way is not that way. So I just try and get closer to "the right way" every day. Same with poker really. And life. #philosophy

Gamblergames launched quick chinese jackpot roll&go tournaments.Played a few of those, it`s pretty fun. Its very similar to spin&go on stars, but its Chinese instead of holdem.

Gonna try them out soon. How are dynamics?

4 -7 minutes

I like this version, any idea of a good pts system??

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Played a session of this yesterday, it's plays pretty conservative based on the royalties/scoring compared to reg pine Ofc. We added 5 pts for full house and bumped up quads to 10 pts and str8 flushes to 25 pts. Fun game for 4 people as an alternative to reg pine Ofc, since u can obv only play 3 handed in that.

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I think the Holdem variants are on the right track. But for wider casino adoption, it's critical to be able to get more than 3 or 4 people in the game. The following OFC Holdem game allows up to 6 people, and brings along with it betting rounds, unknown information, bluffing, and folding. It might be worth trying in a home game and seeing how it plays.

(Limit)(Pot-Limit)(No Limit)OFC Holdem - Maybe just call this Chinese Holdem

The Chinese board of 13 cards serves as the community cards, and the players will (eventually) have 6 cards each.

6x6=36 + 13 + 3 xtra cards (used for burn and/or Fantasyland)

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Preflop:

Players are dealt 4 cards each. The board is then dealt like so:

Burn 1 card

(Q)xx
(A24)xx
(KK3)xx

with the x's representing unknown turn and river of each row.

After seeing the board, the players set their 4 cards face down. They will eventually have three rows as well, which match up to the board, but like in Holdem, they can use any combination of their hole cards and the board, as long as they have at least one card in each row. So if player A is dealt AKQ7, they could set

Q
A
K7

player B gets 355K, could set

x
55
K3

etc

After setting, there's betting, raising, and folding like in any Holdem variant.
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Turn

Burn 1 and deal Turn cards for each row on the Chinese board, then each player is dealt one more card. Set where they please, again face down, then another round of betting.

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River

Rinse, repeat - rivers turned over, deal 6th card to each player, betting, showdown. Winner declared. Best hand without fouling wins, iow 666TT beats 22288, flush pips count and so on. It will be nearly impossible to have any ties.

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That's it. Fantasyland requirement should be trip 9's or better, something like that. Fantasyland player gets all six cards to start and perhaps the burn cards as well.

At first glance I really like ur version. But plz clear up one thing. U say that u only need at least one card on a row? So u don't finish w/ three 2 card piles, ex. AA, KQ, 98 but instead u can have say A, KQA, 98?? Seems to make sense that u must have three 2 card hands. Am i missing something? Txs..

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Also u say best hand wins w/o fouling. So is there one winner per row (3 total) or is there one overall winner based on a total of the three rows?? Im assuming there is one winner somehow (based on the betting), but confused on how. Are royalties scored like in Ofc?? Does bottom have to beat middle like in Ofc or are we just making best hands? Sry, trying to grasp this while dabbin w/ the vape, hehe. Txs again..

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3 2-card hands makes sense. For some reason I was thinking that you could have only 1 or even none to 'play the board' for example. But 3 2-card hands probably makes more decisions necessary.

Scratch the royalties. Speeds up the game too. The pot is the pot, as in holdem. It is won or it is lost. No more 'ties' in rows from different strength similar hands like flushes, straights or whatever - pips matter here, so 777KK beats 22266, and AK876 flush beats AQJ95 flush. If you tie in the back row, like two equivalent straights, move up to the middle to break the tie.

FL can still be qualified for however with a certain strength top row. Actually this is the good reason for 2-card hands because it'll be harder to have a tie with trips, since you have to use 2 cards in your hand.

One overall winner, following the non-fouling rules of a Chinese hand, so strongest on the bottom going up, yes.

Chinese Holdem - The principles of Chinese poker and the mechanics of Holdem.

Pineapple OFC is still a great game and I'd like to see more limit/pot-limit/no-limit variations, with some face-down cards, betting, etc as well. But that's another post for another day.

Gotcha! I think we are on the same page, i also luv pineapple OFC, but i like this as an alternative. I'm gonna try and have a game this weekend and will report how it plays. I'm curious as to which variant (NL, PL, Limit) u think will run best? Also would you have blinds like in holdem?? Txs..

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Also while on topic, if there are blinds, who would set first (the sb or utg)? Obv utg would start the betting. And for FL, do u have to win the hand to qualify or just get to showdown and have a qualified hand (like OFC)? I'm guessing it may have to be the winner only can qualify for FL based on the # of available cards.

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I would think limit might play best for a home game at first, and when people get more familiar with the flow of it, try out pot-limit or NL. It certainly would be interesting to see what happens if someone shoves preflop.

Blinds or antes perhaps, first to act is left of dealer if antes or utg if blinds.

Looking forward to hearing about how it plays!

Technically a player could lose the overall hand but be the only qualifier for FL, so..... maybe it's a good 'booby prize' - but if both the winner of the hand and another player both qualify, only the overall winner goes

Or, your way

Play enough and it will become clear

Excellent, txs again

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So did u ever try this

threads dead!

i've been getting curshing in the pineapp app

almost feel like it's rigged!