Back when they first brought out the 8 game tables, i wrote them an email, saying that the NL/PL blinds were not equivalent of the limit games, and that the antes were horrible in the stud type games, was 5c ante in the 50/1 games, 2 hours later I went back and all was changed.

Mack

Fwiw, I emailed Stars about the fact that there is no $5/10 8-Game tables, essentially just asking if there was a reason. They said no reason existed, and that there's a chance they might start a couple soon.


Should at least help get some more action from the 4/8 regs.

Might be nice having a 6/12 table. It would make the path from 4/8 to 10/20 smoother.

Peter

Lately I have been learning other poker games other than NLHE and PLO. I feel at the mirco stakes I could beat the 8-game on stars, but am not sure whether it is worth it to play in these games.

What winrates are possible? starting at the lowest stakes for now.

How many tables are you playing at a time? What is a realistic amount( considering the stud game's)? Even though it's more interesting playing mixed games, poker, for me is about making money so i'm worried my hourly will drop.

Any ideas?

GL.

Yes! Action! 2-7 more exciting than most games-for sure.
At the higher limits on stars, can't believe how many times I've seen people call multiple bets and draw 3. They were usually the button or co-button, not in the blinds. Don't know the game well, even though I play it enough, but I could never figure out how those two cards could be worth 3 bets. If you have 7722x maybe?
I know that feeling of excitement you speak of. I think the mixed games have a great future. At least I'm hoping. 2-7 has been part of the mixed games in Vegas forever! As for the limping at PLO, that will end as you go higher in stakes, I personally guarantee it. Even 2-7 as it's own game, could really catch on. A lot of poker players have some variation of ADD. We call it gambleitis here in Canada.
roxy

3-4 tables is the max I would suggest if they are all mixed games. Here are some tips which might help:
1. Drag the games that are on a high round to the top half of your screen and low or split games to the bottom half. Maybe it sound stupid but it helps.
2. Double check the title bar before clicking when faced with any significant action.
3. Try 2 mixed tables and 4 Hold Em or whatever your preferred other game is if you aren't satisfied 4 tabling mixed.
Anyone else have any helpful suggestions about multitabling mixed without going insane?

I find if there is like 2 10-20 tables the players will often pace it so the two are on the same game at the same time. This is nice when it's working.
Love,
ROXY24
PS-Wouldn't it be great if there was a program that writes the played upcards into a window which you could reference during the hand? Could this be done technically?

It exists but I don't think its allowed by Stars or ethical either.

It's no less ethical than a HUD.

True I guess. Joe Tall said it in a vid and I kinda agreed without thinking in more detail about it.

lol apparently it's been way too long since I played 8-game. Terribad 2-7 hand, that I thought I was crushing on.

sry it's not converted, apparently the converter doesn't work for 2-7:

PokerStars Game #37474112932: 8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit, $0.20/$0.40 USD) - 2010/01/01 1:26:55 ET
Table 'Hamal II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: player1 ($6.71 in chips)
Seat 2: player2 ($16.84 in chips)
Seat 3: player3 ($6.23 in chips)
Seat 4: player4 ($5.41 in chips)
Seat 5: me ($9 in chips)
me: posts small blind $0.10
player1: posts big blind $0.20
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to me [2d 4d 6h Ad 5h]
player2: folds
player3: folds
player4: folds
me: calls $0.10
player1: checks
*** FIRST DRAW ***
me: stands pat on [2d 4d 6h Ad 5h]
player1: discards 3 cards
me: bets $0.20
player1: calls $0.20
*** SECOND DRAW ***
me: stands pat on [2d 4d 6h Ad 5h]
player1: discards 2 cards
me: bets $0.40
player1: raises $0.40 to $0.80
me: calls $0.40
*** THIRD DRAW ***
me: stands pat on [2d 4d 6h Ad 5h]
player1: stands pat
me: bets $0.40
player1: raises $0.40 to $0.80
me: calls $0.40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
player1: shows [3c 6d 2c 4s 7h] (Lo: 7,6,4,3,2)
me: mucks hand
player1 collected $3.81 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4 | Rake $0.19
Seat 1: player1 (big blind) showed [3c 6d 2c 4s 7h] and won ($3.81) with Lo: 7,6,4,3,2
Seat 2: player2 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 3: player3 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: player4 (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: me (small blind) mucked [2d 4d 6h Ad 5h]

Diddystein I think I played you today, my first time playing shorthanded 8-game

Diddyeinstein you played it terribad even if you thought your hand was a low

Any of you guys regs in the .50/1 game?

I've justed started playing micro-limits 8-Game on PS.
I'm bad in most of the games, so all advice is welcomed.

Here is a Stud Hi/Lo hand, I have questions about.
Is the raise on 4th OK?
Should I bet 5th?
What to do after that?

PokerStars Game: 8-Game (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit, $0.20/$0.40 USD) - 2010/01/01 19:15:03 CET [2010/01/01 13:15:03 ET]
Table 'Salonta' 6-max
Seat 1: Player1 ($16.27 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($7.19 in chips)
Seat 3: Player2 ($8.29 in chips)
Seat 4: Player3 ($7.46 in chips)
Seat 5: Player4 ($2.56 in chips)
Seat 6: Vilain ($7.36 in chips)
Player2: posts the ante $0.04
Player3: posts the ante $0.04
Player4: posts the ante $0.04
Vilain: posts the ante $0.04
Player1: posts the ante $0.04
Hero : posts the ante $0.04

*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Player1 [5c]
Dealt to Hero [8h Jh Jd]
Dealt to Player2 [3d]
Dealt to Player3 [9h]
Dealt to Player4 [6d]
Dealt to Vilain [7c]

Player2: brings in for $0.06
Player3: calls $0.06
Player4: calls $0.06
Vilain: calls $0.06
Player1: folds
Hero: raises $0.14 to $0.20
Player2: folds
Player3: folds
Player4: calls $0.14
Vilain: calls $0.14

*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Hero [8h Jh Jd] [3c]
Dealt to Plyaer4 [6d] [Qd]
Dealt to Vilain [7c] [4d]

Player4: checks
Vilain: bets $0.20
Hero: raises $0.20 to $0.40
Player4: folds
Vilain: calls $0.20

*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Hero [8h Jh Jd 3c] [Qh]
Dealt to Vilain [7c 4d] [Js]

Hero: checks
Vilain: checks

*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Hero [8h Jh Jd 3c Qh] [5h]
Dealt to Vilain [7c 4d Js] [9c]

Hero: bets $0.40
Vilain: raises $0.40 to $0.80
Hero: calls $0.40

*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Hero [8h Jh Jd 3c Qh 5h] [Qs]
Hero: checks
Vilain: bets $0.40
Hero: calls $0.40

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vilain: shows [Tc 8d 7c 4d Js 9c Th] (HI: a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero: mucks hand [8h Jh Jd 3c Qh 5h Qs]
Vilain collected $3.96 from pot
No low hand qualified

Raise on 4th is ok, you get it HU with what seems like the best high hand. Bet 5th always when he hits what looks like a complete blank for whatever he has. 6th he hits a 9 and raises. What could he start with that helps him? 779? I think 6th and 7th are standard, specially when you make two overpairs to his board that looks weird for either way.

Besides, post this in the stud forum. You get better responses.

quick double check, theres no tracking programs for 2-7 right?

I thought Pokerhands did it but I could be wrong here. I dont use it.

Fold pre in that Stud 8 hand, and also bet 5th.

Pokerhands does the job.

+1 The bigger pots/bb thing at the higher limits is because there is more aggression, rather than more easy money. When you are doing well at 4-8 and 10-20,that would seem like a more appropriate time to move up. Not that I personally follow that rule

LOVE THIS POST


Stud isn't difficult or scary. NLHE is. I wish I was you.





Maybe oogee read 8 books
8-game mix

I notice this is your first post. Welcome to the forum.

However, your post probably belongs in the stud forum. If you started a new thread, it would be easy for me to move your whole thread to the stud forum, and I'd do that.

But since you posted your thread in the middle of an existing thread, it's a lot easier for you to copy your hand history from here, paste it into the stud-8 converter, copy the converted hand history from there, and paste it into a new hand thread in the stud forum.

I'm not an expert. I think, "Yes." But I might be leading you astray.
Yes. I think so. Once you check, an aggressive opponent is likely to bet. (That's my experience). You either keep up the pressure or you will be reacting to pressure. I like the first way better. That way you at least have some fold equity.
Depends on what Villain does.

On the basis of the raise, it looks to me like Villain might have made a straight here, either that or trip nines.

That means he'd either have to have started with something like
[8, T] 7, or
[9, 9] 7

and then continued with
[8, T] 7, 4 or
[9, 9] 7, 4

Those both seem unlikely for an opponent who knows the game, but you never know, I guess. It would be hard for me to believe Villain had either. I'd be puzzled and wonder what was going on. I'd call the raise and the last bet just to find out.

Seems right.

Seems right.

Wow! He did play a starting hand of
[8, T] 7 (or [8, T] 7).

And then he managed to draw a nine.

I hope you said, "Nice hand" and stayed in the game with Villain.

Buzz

thanks Bjornar and zuutroy

tried opening this program thru my zip program and popup saying:

"hud.xml couldnt be found. could not find file 'lists the file extention'

help please?

posting in pokerhands thread aswell

Does the program itself actually run for you? I have vague recollections of something similar when I was installing, but I don't bother with a HUD so I never looked into it.

i cant istall it at all, and the current thread ia a cluster**** where making it work means doing 7 arbitrary dumb steps including downloading the open source.

god this is frustrating.