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Old 03-11-2017, 07:37 PM   #1
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OFC discussion

I've been playing OFC on an app for a couple years, mostly against a friend but some randoms too, and I don't think I've ever discussed strategy much.

I mostly play pineapple (get 3 cards, discard 1) and with a wild. This creates higher scoring hands so keep that in mind.

Guess I'll start with some starting positioning questions. I don't know the best plays so I'll go over different things I have done with my thought process of why I do it.

1. Low pair and overs

Example: 55KJ10

Sometimes I'll do 55 on the bottom, going for quads or a boat. J10 in the middle for two pair/straight. King on top to get to fantasy.

Or you could go J10 on the bottom for the straight/backdoor boat, 55 in the middle for trips/two pair and the King on top.

2. Flush and pair mix

Example: A94 suited 92 off

A94 on bottom for a safe flush draw. 9 in the middle 2 on top.

99 on bottom for boat/quads. A4 suited in the middle for flush/straight/Aces for potential fantasy. 2 on top.

3. Lot of options with wild

Example: KQ suited KJ suited Wild

KQW on bottom. KJ in the middle.

KKW on bottom. QJ in the middle.

JW on bottom. KK in middle. Q on top. (Think this is terrible but maybe?)

4. Garbage

Example: K2 suited 98 suited 5

K2 bottom. 98 middle. 5 up top.

98 bottom. 52 middle. King top.

This is the kind of hand where I struggle the most. K2 on the bottom you're limiting yourself to the flush essentially (could back into a boat) and chances of that aren't great. The 98 gives you flush and straight draw options. If you draw a King you're kinda trapped no matter what happens.

Alright I'll stop there. Any input would be great.

I play on the android app (iphone one too but can't play vs us) made by Corvid. Name is skurey on there.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:11 PM   #2
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Re: OFC discussion

What android app to you play on? I can't find anything good on it.
For #4, the 2nd set is much better imo.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:22 PM   #3
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:55 PM   #4
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Re: OFC discussion

K
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55J

Always putting the jack on the bottom with the pair as back up in case I do not hit any royalties but manage to 2 pair bottom and middle with the K hopefully allowing me to get FL.
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:45 AM   #5
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Re: OFC discussion

I'm gonna blow your mind - you don't have to put a card on top in every set.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:56 AM   #6
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Re: OFC discussion

3. KKW on bottom. J in the middle. Q = top

BTW How many points is KKKKW in the bottom? How do you name it? Poker?
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:47 PM   #7
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Re: OFC discussion

You would call it 5 of a kind. Some games with wild cards say 5 of a kind beats everything although others say 5 of a kind loses to royal flushes but beats all other straight flushes. I've never played OFC with wilds so idk how much it's worth.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:50 PM   #8
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It's a 35 point royalty. Beats everything.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:14 AM   #9
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Re: OFC discussion

Guys,

Where would I go if I wanted to find players willing to play for small stakes on the ap? .25, .50, per pt., etc.? Thanks!
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:12 PM   #10
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Just getting into this game..

How would you do
AAK98 as your opening five


Reading benefits of going A in middle and K up top for openers in general, but do you scrap that and put AA on bottom here?
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:02 PM   #11
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I'd prob do

K
AA
98

Seems like a good way to get to fantasyland if we can bink a straight or flush in the bottom. I'm prob a pretty big fishcake in this game though so let's see what others say.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:07 PM   #12
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Re: OFC discussion

Anything other than what zoog said is awful
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:10 AM   #13
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Re: OFC discussion

So you think -
K
98
AA

is awful? (less chance of fouling etc)
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:13 AM   #14
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Yeah
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:16 AM   #15
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:58 PM   #16
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Re: OFC discussion

How about something crappy like

T8633

Any value in using a small pair right away up top as you try to salvage this hand? Or just start a club flush on the bottom? Also, just started playing a couple days ago, but straights on the bottom don't seem to work well as you are almost guaranteed to be beat by a non-fouling opponent.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:51 PM   #17
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How about something crappy like



T8633



Any value in using a small pair right away up top as you try to salvage this hand? Or just start a club flush on the bottom? Also, just started playing a couple days ago, but straights on the bottom don't seem to work well as you are almost guaranteed to be beat by a non-fouling opponent.


The fact you think that is a crappy hand is a problem. You probably can get to fantasy land with that hand 25% of the time. Set empty / 86 / 33T
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:21 PM   #18
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Re: OFC discussion

OK, you're thinking here most likely punting the bottom heads-up score (unless you can make a boat) in favor of getting like QQ/2 pair/trips, 2 pair for FL?

I'm prolly not weighting FL enough.
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:19 PM   #19
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OK, you're thinking here most likely punting the bottom heads-up score (unless you can make a boat) in favor of getting like QQ/2 pair/trips, 2 pair for FL?

I'm prolly not weighting FL enough.
Winning a row is worth 1 point. QQ is worth about 16...
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:28 PM   #20
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Re: OFC discussion

7 but I get your point
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Old 03-19-2017, 06:32 PM   #21
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I've heard EV of getting QQ up top factoring in FL is +14
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7 but I get your point
FL in Pineapple Hi is worth about 9. so 7+9=16
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Re: OFC discussion

What's FL worth with 2-7 in the middle?
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:03 PM   #24
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Re: OFC discussion

Playing regular pineapple OFC, FL QQ+, how should I set JJ632 out of position?

Also, how should I set K6Q56 in position vs empty/J/9977?
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Playing regular pineapple OFC, FL QQ+, how should I set JJ632 out of position?

Also, how should I set K6Q56 in position vs empty/J/9977?
1. JJ6/32
2. 665/K/Q although i can see 66/K5/Q
3. 9977/J. If a 7 is dead 99J/77 (maybe even a dead 9 but definitely dead 7)
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