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[micro 2-7 TD] Break a T on the third draw? [micro 2-7 TD] Break a T on the third draw?

06-30-2015 , 09:04 AM
I'm a complete 2-7 noob, as you can see by the stakes I play :P


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 2 players
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Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J T 7 2
Hero raises, BB calls

First Draw: (4 SB) (2 players)
BB draws 4, Hero draws 3
Hand: 7 5 3 3 2
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

Second Draw: (4 BB) (2 players)
BB draws 2, Hero draws 1
Hand: T 7 5 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Third Draw: (6 BB) (2 players)
BB draws 2, Hero stands pat
Hand: T 7 5 3 2
BB bets, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 8 BB
BB shows 8h 5s 4c 3h 2d (Lo: 8,5,4,3,2)
Hero mucks Ts 7s 5c 3d 2h
BB wins 7.65 BB
(Rake: $0.07)


Should I break this T given that I have 18 outs to a T or better (I think :P)? I assume pat T is a big favorite against a two card draw but can I get any value from anything worse? If villain checks then I probably have to check back because I don't see many worse hands calling, and when he leads is he ever bluffing here?

What if this situation happened on the second draw? Easy break or not always?
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06-30-2015 , 10:12 AM
It would be a disaster to break vs. 2 card draw here. And you're right he's probably never bluffing the river since it's micros and he doesn't think you're going to fold anything, just know that it's hugely exploitable for you to fold.
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06-30-2015 , 11:53 AM
Never breaking, never folding without a good read.
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07-01-2015 , 05:12 AM
Call and don't feel bad about it. He could be desperation bluffing with 1p, 2p, straight.
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07-01-2015 , 09:04 AM
Perfectly played. You should even pat most jacks vs draw one.
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07-01-2015 , 10:09 AM
cry call, breaking it would make you dog if villain (probably) hit trip 4s and a 3, he had like a flush-draw equity (+2-3%) on third draw, maybe raise-fold after third (raising villains bluff equity, like feeding an amateur with chess pieces and the queen and later on crushing with the bishop).
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07-01-2015 , 11:51 PM
Villain almost never bluffing river at these stakes in the lol 2-pat river spot and you're not very high up in your range. Still, you would almost need to have the read that villain NEVER bluffs this spot in order to find a fold, esp huhu. There are players I'd fold this against, but that's only like 10% of villains.

Had the last draw gone 2-1, your hand is so much stronger, but once you raise the flop, indicating a strong 1 cd or better, and then pat 3rd draw, villain is expecting you to never fold when he bets. So he looks quite strong.
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07-02-2015 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ELuciusFTW
Perfectly played. You should even pat most jacks vs draw one.
I'm patting a lot of queens versus draw 1 as well.
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07-03-2015 , 12:25 PM
Can you expand? I always thought J = favorite over 1 card draw, but Q is underdog.
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07-04-2015 , 02:59 AM
What kind of a pat hand is a favorite against a one card draw when there is still one or two draws remaining?
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07-04-2015 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerwazy
What kind of a pat hand is a favorite against a one card draw when there is still one or two draws remaining?
purfect nines (like 9 6 low), good nines and in some case tens. (Depends on villains draws), T9587 (4%) can win from start vs 2347J can win to in a 4handed game or even 2347T if villain breaks (brick city).

If u are in position holding a T73xx pat without a 2 before second and villain draws one u can check behind before third for pot control, its close to 50/50 and if you are a readmaster (discards) u will know when to break or when to patbet before third but triple draw you need to play a couple of hands to see how your villain prefers to ride (discarding 3 in almost every pot indicates of dead nines/tens ratio or even eights) a lot of calling pre-draw and taking two says villains is holding nines/tens in a lot of hands but then there is variance but you ca see the order of cards on wich one came first and how the five cards fell unto your hand example the order is 9K752 id say its best to keep the 9 and pray for the second draw and if villain 3bets and take one then the nine is a keeper/gooner depending on how you feel like maybe even disc the 5 and go for a steal (taking 3 with a 267xx will give you 1/3 hit-ratio on first and kill 2 to 4% of villains) and there is a big difference between 21% and 18% escpecially 16% adding up to 48%.

Last edited by doylebrunson1337; 07-04-2015 at 06:19 AM.
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