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Old 05-17-2017, 11:06 PM   #1
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Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

I am planning to take a shot at 40/80 mix in bellagio during wsop. Please share your insight/experiences/player pool info about those mixed games which seem to run daily.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:57 PM   #2
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

Not a regular but I'm in this room and these games a couple of times a year including WSOP. When I've seen 40 mix go it's been because the 80-160 didn't have enough players to start and some of those players got people waiting for Holdem seats to play mix with them. Didn't seem to run on its own like the stud game does. The 80-160 and higher mixes are more likely to go.

The 40 mix seemed to be a more old school mix with HORSE (Razz sometimes swapped with super Razzdugi or some equally stupid variant) plus some of the triple draw games (Badugi, Deuce, A-5, Badacey, Badeucey). The 80 mix had more super stud variants (super stud 8, super hi-lo regular) and some capped big-bet games (Big O, PLO).

The player pool for the 80 has both tougher regulars and some very gambly recreational players from my experience and identifying who is which, and which games each player makes mistakes in is probably the key skill in a mixed environment.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:30 PM   #3
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

Thanks for the insight. Looks the games get made up based on players request.


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Old 05-21-2017, 10:12 PM   #4
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

There is a good chance you can start 20/40 or 30/60 mix at the Rio and have more of a choice of the games in the mix. That might be more of an ideal size for you based on your post. The bellagio regs are pretty obstinate about their mix
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:35 PM   #5
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

Yeah 20/40 mix at the Rio runs frequently during the WSOP. And while you can kind of choose the games if you're there for the start of the game opening, it's going to be almost always a very similar mix. All the regs choose between these same 8-10 games. And even if you managed to get a game in at the start, for example Limit Hold 'em, when other regs arrive, they'll always be like - "Wtf is this doing in the mix? Let's take it out."

I think RolldUpTrips would be most insightful for the Bellagio as he's a reg there.
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:41 PM   #6
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Yeah 20/40 mix at the Rio runs frequently during the WSOP. And while you can kind of choose the games if you're there for the start of the game opening, it's going to be almost always a very similar mix. All the regs choose between these same 8-10 games. And even if you managed to get a game in at the start, for example Limit Hold 'em, when other regs arrive, they'll always be like - "Wtf is this doing in the mix? Let's take it out."

I think RolldUpTrips would be most insightful for the Bellagio as he's a reg there.
I'm never at the Bell during WSOP and my understanding is that it's a fair amount different from the rest of the year, so I don't really have anything to add. Sorry :-(
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:51 AM   #7
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

The 80 or 1/2 mix ive played during wsop never had big bet and limit holdem was included a couple times, though I think they do have NLSD and Big O/PLO8 for regular game during rest of year which I've never played. Pretty sure the 40 didn't have big bet iirc. Grumpy older local reg will ensure that stud hi lo regular is in the mix lol
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Old 05-22-2017, 04:02 PM   #8
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Re: Lets discuss Bellagio 40/80 mixed game

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Not a regular but I'm in this room and these games a couple of times a year including WSOP. When I've seen 40 mix go it's been because the 80-160 didn't have enough players to start and some of those players got people waiting for Holdem seats to play mix with them. Didn't seem to run on its own like the stud game does. The 80-160 and higher mixes are more likely to go.
Not a regular either, but I think the 40 mix has a completely different player pool than the 80. The 40 is more of a conventional mix that goes in the daytime, while the 80 can be more adventurous and usually goes overnight. When I've seen the 80 go earlier, it's been started by bigger plo players waiting for their game.

This info is at least a year old, so may be completely bogus.

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The player pool for the 80 has both tougher regulars and some very gambly recreational players from my experience and identifying who is which, and which games each player makes mistakes in is probably the key skill in a mixed environment.
This. It can be difficult to believe that a player so solid in one game can be so helpless in another.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:14 AM   #9
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There is a good chance you can start 20/40 or 30/60 mix at the Rio and have more of a choice of the games in the mix. That might be more of an ideal size for you based on your post. The bellagio regs are pretty obstinate about their mix
But at Rio, be prepared for poor mix dealers. Lots of misdeals, rules confusion, etc.
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:22 AM   #10
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But at Rio, be prepared for poor mix dealers. Lots of misdeals, rules confusion, etc.
Yes this! It will get better towards the end but in the beginning it's a ***** show.
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