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06-18-2015 , 06:58 PM
Feral Cow Poker Hand Converter
PokerStars Limit Badugi $0.25/$0.50 - 8 players

MP: $12.92
HJ: $5.56
CO: $1.12
Button: $7.50 (Hero)
SB: $8.55
BB: $10.00
UTG: $2.28
UTG+1: $22.80

Dealing Hands: ($0.35) (8 players)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25

First Draw: ($5.00) (5 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 2, UTG+1 stands, Hero stands,

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, HERO ???

this is a break right?

keep and draw 2 right?
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06-18-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavulon
Feral Cow Poker Hand Converter
PokerStars Limit Badugi $0.25/$0.50 - 8 players

MP: $12.92
HJ: $5.56
CO: $1.12
Button: $7.50 (Hero)
SB: $8.55
BB: $10.00
UTG: $2.28
UTG+1: $22.80

Dealing Hands: ($0.35) (8 players)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25

First Draw: ($5.00) (5 players)
SB discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 2, UTG+1 stands, Hero stands,

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, HERO ???
Raise to $1.00

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this is a break right?
No.

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keep and draw 2 right?
No. Pat again.

(But Badugi is not my game).

Buzz
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06-18-2015 , 09:54 PM
Depends on villain tendencies. If you are against an unknown you should probably not break.
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06-18-2015 , 11:31 PM
Tough hand.

I'm not sure but I would not be breaking and I'd stop raising. Raising again after the first draw will not knock out the SB and BB. And even in the scenario where you have UTG+1 beat and SB/BB are drawing you are not missing a ton of value not collecting from them some more.

Quite a parlay going on that you have UTG+1 beat and those other guys will not draw out.

Maybe after the second draw there is merits to raising. But I think it's best just getting to showdown cheap. If one of the SB or BB comes alive after the 2nd draw it's time to close shop
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06-19-2015 , 09:16 AM
he played 2 tables and after 500 hands looked kinda solid.

I did break a better hand by the way

Lesson learnt, will go for a cheap shodwown next time

Thanks guys
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06-21-2015 , 10:10 AM
There's absolutely NO breaking with this hand! What are you going to do, play a bloated pot multiway action with now holding just a two-card?

If you think you're good, then I would just call after the first draw.
I don't like a raise here because you're not going to drive anyone out who's only taking 1 card(this is a big pot, and players are going to hang around). My preference, is to wait one street, see if anyone else is now pat, and if not, then I would raise the utg+1 player, and hopefully get this to a HU situation. Also, if you raise after the first draw and utg+1 isn't that strong? He's likely to get nervous about your raise and as a result check to you. Then what happens, is, the players will only be faced with one bet opposed to a double bet, and that's often enough to tip the scales.

However, if you have reason to believe that you're not good, then just fold. There are a few players that I would fold this hand to---it might not happen right away, but I'd be able to get away from it before the river.

Last edited by Rush17; 06-21-2015 at 10:18 AM.
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06-21-2015 , 07:30 PM
thanks Rush17

so in other words, I could have kept the pot small on the Flop, to give others worse odds on the Turn yes?
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06-21-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavulon
thanks Rush17

so in other words, I could have kept the pot small on the Flop, to give others worse odds on the Turn yes?
Look, if anyone holds a really strong tri(A23, or something like a 6 smooth or w/e), theres a chance that they call the two bets on the turn anyway, but, presenting them with that double bet will def make it easier for you if they had any doubt to begin with. And, if I thought that my Badugi was indeed the best Badugi, then at that point(OTT) I do want to try and close up shop and just have everyone fold. Well, unless they're drawing to Tens!
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06-22-2015 , 01:49 PM
Given the amount of people in the pot and the pd action, your hand is either good (very often, imo) or you are very likely to be drawing nearly dead, imo.
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06-22-2015 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
There's absolutely NO breaking with this hand! What are you going to do, play a bloated pot multiway action with now holding just a two-card?

If you think you're good, then I would just call after the first draw.
I don't like a raise here because you're not going to drive anyone out who's only taking 1 card(this is a big pot, and players are going to hang around). My preference, is to wait one street, see if anyone else is now pat, and if not, then I would raise the utg+1 player, and hopefully get this to a HU situation. Also, if you raise after the first draw and utg+1 isn't that strong? He's likely to get nervous about your raise and as a result check to you. Then what happens, is, the players will only be faced with one bet opposed to a double bet, and that's often enough to tip the scales.

However, if you have reason to believe that you're not good, then just fold. There are a few players that I would fold this hand to---it might not happen right away, but I'd be able to get away from it before the river.
Pretty much agree with all this. Basically my entire pat range is raising the turn.
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06-28-2015 , 11:49 PM
This is really a pat or fold situation - paying 25c to draw 2 is pretty silly
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