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02-10-2015 , 03:00 PM
I have a few beginner questions about badugi.
1. What are the odds of an opponent making a badugi by the river if they draw 2 to start off. I am wondering this because it seems like it would be very profitable to just snow predraw against a lot of opponents because most people won't put you on a snow and won't call down without a badugi themselves.

2. What are the lowest beatable stakes in badugi in full ring, 6 max and heads up?

3. Are there any good training resources out there on badugi? I have looked around and all I could find were some card runners strategy videos and an article on badugi on the cardrunners site.

4. Why does nobody sit isildur when he is sitting at a high stakes badugi table? I heard alexonmoon saying that isildur is very bad at mixed games and draw games yet I often see isildur open sitting 400/800 badugi.
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02-11-2015 , 03:16 AM
1. I calculated these kinds of odds a few years ago. My spreadsheet says 32% is the raw probability for this. In reality it's less, because (a) they probably won't keep every badugi they make, e.g. if they hit KQ2A on the first draw, and (b) they might well give up before the river. So yes, it can be profitable to snow. As you move up the stakes you'll be suspected of snowing more often though, and it's actually quite easy to make say 52A on a two-card draw, which they might try to snow-catch with.

2. Do you mean the highest? Back in 2010, when I played a bit, the smallest game on Stars (25c/50c) was absolutely crushable, and the next two levels were extremely beatable too. There was a definite step up at 2/4. Now I don't know.

3. Watch this and enjoy: http://www.cardrunners.com/poker-vid...st-3-przytula/ Some sound strategy there. People did treat badugi as a comedy game and that's partly why it was so profitable.

4. I really don't know, sorry.
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02-15-2015 , 03:35 PM
When do reshuffles occur, when the number of cards remain < # of cards needed or at a fixed number of cards. What is that number.

Is it the same for 2-7 or 5 card draw...
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02-16-2015 , 04:51 AM
Oh god, I really miss that message you’d see in badugi about five years ago, telling you that the deck was being reshuffled. I’ve been away from the game a while and now I don’t see it. Such a shame.

If you’re talking about Stars, the reshuffle occurs as soon as a player requires more cards than are left in the deck, as usual. That’s the same for all draw games. What’s unusual is that you can never get back a card you discarded, even on a subsequent draw.
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02-17-2015 , 09:08 PM
1. Depends if you fold when not improving or decide to break an horrible Badugi with redraws
2. Up to 1/2 is very easy. 2/4 is beatable too. All stakes above are about who you play, stakes doesnt matter much imo
3. I doubt there's anything good enough other than using hard math and spreadsheets to calculate all ranges and design a proper strategy. Then its all about experience, good habits and good reads. But Im gonna see that video tasman posted
4. Sitting alone can mean a lot of different things.
a) He's good enough at HU Badugi and no one wants to start running a table
b) No other reg was there looking the lobby
c) He refuses action vs the few strong regs habitating Badugi at thoose stakes
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02-27-2015 , 02:58 AM
1.: its depending on if you are trying to hit anybadugi and what 1 card badugis you are trying to draw to. Weather or not to have a pre pat badugi range, how to balance this out and in what spots to do it, are pretty advanced strategy. Would much rather advice you on doing like Forrest gump suggest, and work on math concepts, building a gameplan and start developing reads on other players.

2. there are no regs at 0.25/50 to 1/2. There is a small step up to 2/4-3/6, where there are a few mediocre regs, but these levels should be possible to beat without to much work.

3. There aren't any existing badugi material out there, who is worth using time on.

4. Most of the better regs would be happy to play isildur.
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