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07-01-2017 , 12:24 AM
Playing a 12game tournamen, early on (no reads), on SwC. Everyone with at least 11 big bets, playing 4 handed.

I raise CO with (764)T, button 3bets, blinds fold, I call.
1st draw: 1/2
I catch T for no improvement.
I check, button checks back.
2nd draw: 1/2
I catch 3 to improve to a 763.
I bet, button calls.
3rd draw: 1/1
I catch 6 for no improvement.
I check, button bets, I fold.

Should I bet the flop? I have the drawing lead but not the betting lead, so it's awkward. Is it a bad bet on the turn? I realize I'm probably not representing that good of a hand after checking the flop. After getting called on the river by a draw 1, I'm not feeling too good and hoping for a showdown, but is my hand a good enough bluff catcher on the end? I have to think the button started with A2.
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07-01-2017 , 05:32 AM
Flop? Turn? I only started visiting this forum recently - are these words standard in these non-flop games?

I think river is either a check/fold or check/raise. But only check/raise against specific opponent types. I can think of a couple of players in my mixed games group that I would resteal against on this river
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07-01-2017 , 06:17 AM
Mandatory bet after 1st draw when he draws 2, as played I think its ok to check turn, folding river is fine - turning your hand into a bluff and patting after draw 2 can be a decent line since your 3 card badugi has weak showdown value
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07-01-2017 , 12:34 PM
I would bet/ pat flop and barrel when button draws 2. Improving at all is difficult in Badugi and once button improves to D1 he is beating you 100 percent of the time, but should not call the river with a three-card hand when you go 1: pat.
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07-01-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl4Ever
Flop? Turn? I only started visiting this forum recently - are these words standard in these non-flop games?
I don't know the history but I figure once people started calling the final street of betting the river in every game (stud and draw) by analogy to community card games, people worked backwards and called the penultimate street the turn and the antepenultimate street the flop.
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07-01-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by electrical
I would bet/ pat flop and barrel when button draws 2. Improving at all is difficult in Badugi and once button improves to D1 he is beating you 100 percent of the time, but should not call the river with a three-card hand when you go 1: pat.


This.

And I'm assuming your first catch was the 10 of ♠️ or ♣️, but it showed up on my feed as "🖤." If you made a 10 badugi, pat, bet...

And confirm no flop, turn, or river in draw poker. Unless we're playing heads up, in which case, yeah you right, boo


And I don't mind your fold on the river at all here.
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07-01-2017 , 05:25 PM
What's making you like this spot to turn it into a bluff?
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07-01-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by electrical
I would bet/ pat flop and barrel when button draws 2. Improving at all is difficult in Badugi and once button improves to D1 he is beating you 100 percent of the time, but should not call the river with a three-card hand when you go 1: pat.
I think players that 3 bet and draw 2 in badugi tend to showdown 3 cards at a fairly high frequency when we pat in this spot
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07-02-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
What's making you like this spot to turn it into a bluff?
It's hard to improve and we are not going to win otherwise. I suppose c/f turn is an option but when villain draws two he will not be able to continue past the turn often when we pat.
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07-02-2017 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dead..money
I think players that 3 bet and draw 2 in badugi tend to showdown 3 cards at a fairly high frequency when we pat in this spot
If hero has been caught before then it might not work. If hero's image implies a pure value range then it should work often enough to be better than c/f.
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07-06-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by electrical
I would bet/ pat flop and barrel when button draws 2. Improving at all is difficult in Badugi and once button improves to D1 he is beating you 100 percent of the time, but should not call the river with a three-card hand when you go 1: pat.
This is amazing, I have never even considered this type of play. Sounds great, but wouldn't people catch on? How many times could you get away with this?
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07-27-2017 , 07:47 PM
Not a Badugi expert, but there's a high enough chance your opponent is bluffing so you should check/raise bluff here some times.
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08-02-2017 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
This is amazing, I have never even considered this type of play. Sounds great, but wouldn't people catch on? How many times could you get away with this?
The first time you do it and get caught you should always pretend like you misread your hand. I'm typically boozing it up so people believe it. Table gets a laugh and you get a round drinks for the table to try and "even it up"
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