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04-28-2016 , 05:42 PM
This badaci hand is from a 5-handed $50/$100 home game.

BB is a strong, thinking player capable of anything. BTN is a VIP who is very loose passive. He never snows or bluffs and his raises always indicate very strong hands. He never draws after raising.

Hero is in the SB.

UTG and UTG+1 fold, BTN limps, hero raises with 654A with a 5-high 3-card badugi. Both BB and BTN call.

Hero draws 1, BB draws 2, BTN draws 3. Hero bricks and bets. BB calls, BTN raises and both other players call.

Hero and BB both draw 1 and BTN is pat. Hero bricks and checks. BB checks and BTN bets.

My draw seemed so good in the moment and there were already 7 big bets in the pot with BB likely calling as well, but in retrospect I'm only drawing to 2 outs that give me a likely scoop hand and a maximum of 8 (but more likely fewer due to card removal) cards that even give me 1/2. It's possible that BTN has a good badugi with a mediocre low, but even so it's hard for me to think anything worse than a rough 6 will get any portion of this pot. If I make a rough 7-5 and BB bricks I still think I'm losing vs most of BTN's lows. So in retrospect I think I favor a fold here.

But as played hero and BB both call and draw 1. I made a 3, which gave me a 3-card 4 badugi. I checked, BB checked, BTN bet, I called, BB raised and BTN 3-bet. I considered this spot for awhile before eventually calling. I think there are too many bets in the pot for me to fold a 6 given that they could both have good badugis and 7 or worse lows. BB capped, BTN called and I crying called one last bet.

Spoiler:
BB had a 5-badugi, and BTN scooped with a better 6-card low than me and a better 5-badugi than BB.


Thoughts?
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04-28-2016 , 11:01 PM
A wise man said to never draw to a six that has a five in it, this is why.

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04-30-2016 , 10:57 AM
I would lead last street
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05-01-2016 , 12:50 AM
I would have drawn two
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05-01-2016 , 04:05 AM
Draw 2 pre
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05-01-2016 , 07:12 PM
The brick and bet may be even the seed to your commitment to this big pot
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05-02-2016 , 03:08 AM
I draw two also.
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05-02-2016 , 01:06 PM
Those saying draw two, do you still draw two with 123/6 or are you drawing two here because the 3-card isn't as likely to have showdown value with so many better tris possible?
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05-02-2016 , 04:12 PM
My reasoning is more about a 654 low and a 3 card not being that strong here multiway oop. I think 123/6 is closer and much tougher decision. But then 123/7 is an easy decision again so it's kinda a bunch of factors to my mind
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05-02-2016 , 07:03 PM
Yeah I think multiway I'd rather not sacrifice a perfectly good three card draw to draw at a rough low. I think I probably draw 1 at 123/6 three ways but could be convinced drawing two is preferable.
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05-05-2016 , 04:29 AM
For me 123/6 is a clear 1 and 123/7 is a clear 2.
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05-07-2016 , 09:49 PM
Thanks for the input everyone.
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